Sunz of Beaches
Whot a Donk
Platinum Level
The fact that its not even cancelled but only on a break makes it even more funny.Funny to see so many people complaining about this, when in reality they likely never actually played this tournament, or at least did not play it on anything resembling a regular basis
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Yeah if I was a recreational player and wanted to play the Sunday Million, I think, I could wait, until the summer vacation is over. I would likely not want to do this anyway, while I was on the beach somewhere with my family myself, as a lot of people are right now. And if I really missed to play some poker, the $75 400k guaranty event tonight could probably work as a decent replacement
najisami
Legend
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Igor G
Legend
Loyaler
I think this is another step towards the end of this site's activity. It lost its leadership position a long time ago, and its future looks rather bleak. While other sites are developing, pokerstars is only deteriorating thanks to its ‘wonderful’ management.
Andyreas
Moderator
Moderator
Are you really saying players grinding freerolls do not regularly play a $109 MTT? That's unbelievable to me. 😂Funny to see so many people complaining about this, when in reality they likely never actually played this tournament, or at least did not play it on anything resembling a regular basis
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Exactly. Just a shame, that activity and game selection is constantly declining, and that most of the 1 table SnGs are overly raked after the changes, they made last year. But the 9-45 mans and 18-mans are still decent offerings.
G0930
Captain Fathermucker, Satty Aficionado
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You ARE a recreational player genius.Yeah if I was a recreational player and wanted to play the Sunday Million, I think, I could wait, until the summer vacation is over. I would likely not want to do this anyway, while I was on the beach somewhere with my family myself, as a lot of people are right now. And if I really missed to play some poker, the $75 400k guaranty event tonight could probably work as a decent replacement
You don't make living with poker do you ?
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But it's good to hear the Milly isn't gone for good
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fundiver199
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I dont make a living from poker, but I play mostly for profit. So I consider myself a for profit player but of course not a professional.
Why do you even care? If I understand it correctly, you stopped playing on PokerStars years ago, because its such a terrible site? For me I dont care, because a $109 MTT is outside my bankroll, and I dont play any slow MTTs in the evening, because I give priority to my sleep.
G0930
Captain Fathermucker, Satty Aficionado
Loyaler
Also winning players are recreational players
They key term here is , activity in leisure time.
True I rarely play at PS but once in a while I do play the satellites for the SM ( the only good Mtt left at Stars ) which results in a 109$ ticket from time to time .
I thought it was gone for good but I stand corrected...only a break apparently .
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
If any activity in leisure time (assuming someone have a regular full time job) is to be defined as recreational, then that would also include running some kind of small personal business like designing web pages for other people and getting paid to do so. According to Google AI:Also winning players are recreational players
They key term here is , activity in leisure time.
"A recreational poker player is someone who plays poker primarily for fun and entertainment, rather than as a primary source of income. They typically have a more casual approach to the game, may be less experienced, and don't rely on poker as a means of financial support. Their main goal is to enjoy the game and socialize, rather than maximizing their winnings."
For me this makes much more sense than claiming, anything is a recreational activity, unless you rely 100% on it for making a living, and I would put special emphasis on the words "primarily for fun and entertainment" as well as "casual approach".
Silversurfer99
Legend
Platinum Level
how do you still have that ticket from 2012 ?!
KrazyKoo
Legend
Platinum Level
I actually got that too. From 2016 or something, it just stays there forever even tho there is no use for it.
Silversurfer99
Legend
Platinum Level
yea i had 1 too..but it dissapeared years ago with a software update i think..
G0930
Captain Fathermucker, Satty Aficionado
Loyaler
I suppose there's an argument for that yes.
It's just that the term recreational player is often used as a synonym for immature player which is just incorrect.
You can be an experienced player, focusing on maximizing your winnings and technically you still are a recreational player as long as this isn't your main source of income.
But do I get where you're coming from 👍🏼
IRINA70
Visionary
Platinum Level
Why since 2012? This ticket was received in January of this year, and you looked at the wrong line in the photo.. The SM ticket is highlighted with a green dot
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Yes I agree with that. Not all recreational players are completely clueless. And the player in my example, who dont play tournaments every day but want to play the best (Sunday Million), when they finally do, is probably a fairly decent player on average. In a sense you fit the definition also, since you dont often play on Pokerstars but sometimes try to satellite into Sunday Million.
"For profit" players AKA regulars play lots of tournaments every day, so they dont care much about any particular one, of if it is a $400k or $1M guaranty this week. They just play, whatever is available, and maybe they are also on vacation themselfes right now, because there is less money to be made in online poker is general during the summer, and if they have family etc.
This I still do not agree with. If I see the same people in my games all the time, especially SnGs and cash games, then to me they are regulars and not recreational, and it really does not matter, if poker is their main source of income or not. It might be but I have no way of knowing this. Maybe a pension is their main source of income, and this is why, they have time to play so much.
What matter is, that they are someone, who play a lot, and they have likely also studied the game to at least some extend. If my opponent has stats of VPIP 22 / PFR 18 with a 9% 3-bet over 9k hands, then I consider them to be a regular, and I give them the label, I use for LAGs (Loose and Aggressive). If they have stats of VPIP 28 / PFR 8 over 300 hands, then I consider them to be a recreational player, and I give them the label, I use for SLPs (Semi-Loose Passive). If they play VPIP 58 / PFR 8 or VPIP 48 / PFR 22 they get the fish label.
The fish and SLPs are someone, I expect, I can make money against for instance by raising their limps and allowing them to call and then make significant mistakes postflop. Whereas the regular is someone with likely more experience and perhaps also theoretical knowledge than me, and my focus is mainly to not make significant mistakes myself against this player. Maybe I 3-bet them light, if their fold to 3-bet is normal to high, but postflop I play more of a pot-control game against them compared to a SLP or fish.
acidburnfx
🧃Senior apprentice
Loyaler
All tickets are valid for 12 months only! You must be aware of the platform's terms.
aorodrigo
Rock Star
Platinum Level
Caution!!
I just read a topic here at CC that they have changed rules. Now Tournament tickets are valid for just 1 year, even showing that it's valid until 2030. I tried to find the topic but I couldn't, but take care not to lose your ticket!
IRINA70
Visionary
Platinum Level
Ok, guys , thanks for warnings and I remember now seeing something like this