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madethegrade
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The problem with ps owning ftp is they gutted it.the rakeback on ftp contributed towards getting the looser games. obvioulsly there were many other factors but why stars gutted it is just plain stupid. they could of had the best of both worlds....
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PlayedYou73
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I'm just wondering how much longer pokerstars will continue its Full Tilt experiment, before it is rolled back into the larger PokerStars client.
The takeover of FTP by PS didn't make much sense to me from a financial standpoint, although it did make some sense from an altruistic and marketing standpoint. It was also a big jab at Howard Lederer by the owners of PS.
But realistically, anytime I go on the two sites, PS has over 100k players on it regularly, sometimes over 200k. FTP has 15k to 20k at the height of a day and it is usually around 10k it seems. The marketplace, without the USA, just doesn't seem large enough to support two major poker sites.
I wouldn't be surprised to see FTP get folded into PS in the next year or two.
The takeover of FTP by PS didn't make much sense to me from a financial standpoint, although it did make some sense from an altruistic and marketing standpoint. It was also a big jab at Howard Lederer by the owners of PS.
But realistically, anytime I go on the two sites, PS has over 100k players on it regularly, sometimes over 200k. FTP has 15k to 20k at the height of a day and it is usually around 10k it seems. The marketplace, without the USA, just doesn't seem large enough to support two major poker sites.
I wouldn't be surprised to see FTP get folded into PS in the next year or two.
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bernotas22
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curtinsea
Rock Star
Silver Level
What is going to happen is FTP is going to be rebranded. And it is expanding into casino games. Moving in to NJ to take advantage of the new law there, and position itself should something like the King bill gets through.
Pokerstars will remain poker only.
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
And after that they are going to open a series of theme parks where you collect playing cards after each ride and make your best hand at the end of the day. Winner gets a giant stuffed bear and a 10% off coupon at McDonalds,
I can make up stories too.
kidkvno1
Sarah's Pet
Bronze Level
LOL :rofl: :icon_thum
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
Is this to replace the smaller version of it?
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bkniefel
Visionary
Silver Level
This is all fantastic news. With Absolute on the burner as well, I should be looking at some hard earned money returned. I posted on a hand that was unimaginable to happen to probably anyone in their lifetime back in 2009.
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
Yes, exactly like this one only bigger. Hearing the rides might be rigged though!!!
curtinsea
Rock Star
Silver Level
I'm sure you can, I don't
http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/7754/big-changes-coming-to-full-tilt-poker/
WVHillbilly
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madethegrade
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That is not going to happen.
Yeh it wont but i still dont see why anyone with money would play on ftp. worse rewards, lower number of players. When they took over they did say they would keep them different. However they gutted rakeback but now there going down the casino path. I guess its all fine just not the best outcome for poker players. time will tell.
^^ also i was talking about people putting in serious grinding volume. Stars > FTP.
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curtinsea
Rock Star
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are you really a troll? The rest is self evident . . . . they are moving in to New Jersey . . .
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-news-events-63/pokerstars-agrees-partnership-c-casino-226282/
New Jersey's internet gaming law includes casino gambling, so FTP as a casino site will be able to take advantage of that fact
The King bill also includes casino gambling, should it pass and Rational have their deals worked out in Atlantic City, they will be able to offer casino games, should the King bill pass.
what is it you are missing here?
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WVHillbilly
Legend
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Any credible evidence that links FTP to Atlantic City mostly.
dj11
Legend
Loyaler
Did you all miss the news that the 'Stars buys NJ Casino' failed? And Stars got screwed in the process?
IMHO, The only thing Stars has done that isn't first class, was their decision to not fight the Black Friday charges in court. Wimps in that respect. Else they have dealt with US players at a top notch efficiency.
IMHO, The only thing Stars has done that isn't first class, was their decision to not fight the Black Friday charges in court. Wimps in that respect. Else they have dealt with US players at a top notch efficiency.
dj11
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Got it now. Still, they have to get past the State regulations for the partnership to get approved, right? And we can surmise that the established casino's will be lobbying and playing the 'Bad Actor' card to get the deal denied.
NateVest
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I agree with this 100% Full Tilt will be the one expanding into sports betting and casino games. I just cannot wait until poker stars is US friendly again. Hopefully the King bill does get through. Lets cross our fingers and keep pressuring our politicians to take action and hope we will not have to wait until 2015-16 to get back on.
I am sure Poker Stars has a dream team of attorneys that encouraged the administration on which route to take, instead of dumping more money into court costs, attorney fees, etc. If they would have fought it, it could still be in the court system ultimately preventing NJ and future US players from playing when laws are passed and changed. I do not have a law degree but I could see the process of fighting the charges burn up the capital the site has. I definitely believe along with more than 100 thousand players that Poker Stars is First Class.
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cardriverx
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kidkvno1
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Let's hope we get 100% of or BR back
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