
Aballinamion
Dark Lord of the Sith
Bronze Level
Which means you lose a little in the long run because this is a thick deep stacked pot. Okay, we are flipping, we will win 3% of times more than villain if we do play millions of hands equally:Let's Flip it for $62 AIPF, can we W?
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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symkalaila (UTG): $25.00 (100 bb)
IHateA14 (MP): $33.30 (133 bb)
AllergiKtoNutS (CO): $99.93 (400 bb)
blamemybrain (BU): $29.49 (118 bb)
Sorininho (SB): $30.99 (124 bb)
marvinsytan (BB): $34.39 (138 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero (marvinsytan) is BB with Q♠ Q♦
3 players fold, blamemybrain (BU) raises to $0.57, Sorininho (SB) 3-bets to $2.50, marvinsytan (BB) 4-bets to $5.25, 1 fold, Sorininho (SB) 5-bets to $30.99 (all-in), marvinsytan (BB) calls $25.74
Flop: ($62.55) T♠ 9♦ J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($62.55) J♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($62.55) J♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $62.55 (Rake: $2)
Showdown:
Sorininho (SB) shows A♣ K♣ (three of a kind, Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%)
marvinsytan (BB) shows Q♠ Q♦ (a full house, Jacks full of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 93%, River: 100%)
marvinsytan (BB) wins $60.55
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Texas Hold'em:
Player 1(
a) consider we are slightly deep stacked
b) consider the rake
c) as long as we are not machines tabling 20 tables at once 24/7 we are not playing millions of hands to get to the ideal/mathematical breakeven point.
Conclusion:
In fact, as you stated, we are in fact flipping 50/50 and considering the rake for this big pot, it’s a bold and dangerous move in the long run.
This is one of the reasons (call me a fish) that I don’t like to 4-bet TT, JJ and QQ preflop, for it villain moves all-in, we have to forcibly go to flip in the best case scenario.
Not saying your 4-bet preflop is wrong, we like to 4-bet more and when we are deep stacked, even better: but when villain 5-bets I think we could consider folding: this is the sole reason that when we 4-bet, we never commit more than 30% of our stack, which give us room to fold to reaction.
In this specific case, you have made a 4-bet that had committed only 21 BB of your stack, and deep stack you committed less than 18% of your stack, so you had plenty of room to fold.
If we are going to flip for some reason, let it be versus a player that we know is jamming more hands than it should and having only 100 blinds effective.
I feel glad that you are winning and beating NLHE 25, and I want you to beat NLHE 100 and NLHE 200 and also crack the first place in the Sunday Million! I’m praying to you and as you said, you are opened to criticism.
In the beginning I thought that this hand was standard and there was nothing to comment. But then I reflected a couple of days over it, made some researches and decided to post. Not hoping you like or agree, or take it under consideration.
But I think it’s good to read something that is not that “standard” every time.
Best regards;