K10 utg

[Sunz of Beaches]

Had K10 utg in an online tournament with 5 big blinds and 9 players at the table. I shoved and i think this was the correct play.

Up untill how many bigs are u guys pushing allin there?

 

[Joe]

Was it PKO or normal?

I'm rusty and far from an authority but with 5bb and about to be in the blinds I think it's an ok shove. Guessing it was suited?

It's common for people to play too tight when short stacked, you don't want to bleed out to the point wherein if you do double up, you've still got dust.

I'd probably considering shoving UTG holding K10 with ~9bb or less...

 

[MK_]

I'd rather have suited just cuz it's a little prettier but I could easily make a case for shoving KT there up to ten...,

KTo is a little more iffy utg but not by much, not a huge fan of blinding out👍

 

[adenosine]

Your mistake was blinding down to 5bbs

 

[fundiver199]

Depends how many players were at the table. "UTG" only say, you were first to act, and what actually matter, is, how many players can potentially wake up with a hand and call you. As Joe say, it also matter, if its a PKO, and if so how much your bounty was worth. In a PKO you will get called wider by players, who cover you, which is bad with a hand like KTo.

 

[kaynbergo]

if I don't have a passable stack and the prizes are still far away, then K10 is a good push hand

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

Was it PKO or normal?

I'm rusty and far from an authority but with 5bb and about to be in the blinds I think it's an ok shove. Guessing it was suited?

It's common for people to play too tight when short stacked, you don't want to bleed out to the point wherein if you do double up, you've still got dust.

I'd probably considering shoving UTG holding K10 with ~9bb or less...

Hello Joe and welcome back 😀

It was a normal structure. Yes i agree 9, 10 big blinds would be ok and suited maybe around 12-14 bb's (?).

 

[fundiver199]

Your mistake was blinding down to 5bbs

Having 5BB is not always the result of blinding down. Maybe hero had 25BB a few hands earlier but ran his JJ into someone elses AK and lost. But since that player only had 20BB, hero was still left with 5BB.

 

[WrongUsername]

std shove with 5bbs hope u doubled up with KTo

 

[mr.fers_one]

Had K10 utg in an online tournament with 5 big blinds and 9 players at the table. I shoved and i think this was the correct play.

Up untill how many bigs are u guys pushing allin there?

with such a hand, they do not go all in with UTG, the king-10 suits are light in weight, even near zero ... study the trp, although depending on the comments of the fish, I take pictures that seem to them beautiful)) just think for yourself, you're sitting early, there's a table behind you, there can clearly be Ax, and good guys, and even kings with a kicker older than 10... in short, this is a stupid decision, but it's up to you to listen to me or not))

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

Depends how many players were at the table. "UTG" only say, you were first to act, and what actually matter, is, how many players can potentially wake up with a hand and call you. As Joe say, it also matter, if its a PKO, and if so how much your bounty was worth. In a PKO you will get called wider by players, who cover you, which is bad with a hand like KTo.

9 players with me. Next time im going to write 9max in the OP 😉Thanks for this information with the PKO, makes a lot of sense.

There were no bounty's involved.

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

with such a hand, they do not go all in with UTG, the king-10 suits are light in weight, even near zero ... study the trp, although depending on the comments of the fish, I take pictures that seem to them beautiful)) just think for yourself, you're sitting early, there's a table behind you, there can clearly be Ax, and good guys, and even kings with a kicker older than 10... in short, this is a stupid decision, but it's up to you to listen to me or not))

 

[fundiver199]

9 players with me. Next time im going to write 9max in the OP 😉Thanks for this information with the PKO, makes a lot of sense. There were no bounty's involved.

Ok with this information I can plug the situation into ICMizer. Assuming that the other players have sort of normal stacks from 15-30BB, then you should be jamming down to K9o for 5BB in chip EV. At 7BB you need KTo or better, and at 10BB you need KJo or better, so the cut-off is around 7BB. However this is chip EV. If it was the final table of a random MTT, then you need KJo to jam for 5BB and KQo to jam for 10BB, because there is a lot of value in letting the other players bust each other to get a free payjump. So probably this was an ok jam but also so marginal, it would not be a big deal to fold either.

 

[Igor Popadyk]

what is the average stack and prizes? the hand is not bad, it depends on the game of your opponents, if they play loosely, you can shove, but if there are players with a smaller stack, you can wait for a better situation

 

[EvertonGirl]

Your mistake was blinding down to 5bbs

Not always the case, as I got knocked down to 2bbs after getting it in good on the flop with my QQs just to have 77 do a runner runner straight on me.

I'm shoving KT utg when I'm 5bbs

But then again I am known as Sarah the shover

 

[thetick33]

id have probably did any suited connectors above 6 lol by that time myself...move on to next etc....i dont shoot for low money wins or bubble so try to not get in that situation but sometimes it just happens..i dont also go so much with blinds so 5 10 25 play pretty much same ways....im gonna try to grab what can when can etc...ive sat and folded forever cause was feeling had....everything i do is not based on numbers alone etc...yesterday lost to a raised 3 5 offsuit out of position etc...cut 3/4th of stack to start a tournament etc...i actually thought cause he hit was a good move....just bad luck i ran into it with good starters...everyone plays different i play against people more then cards or blinds or any of that and mostly its feel...have i been blinded to nothing yep but was playing as felt....sometimes i get it right lol

 

[thetick33]

the point im making above? is more about WHAT is five big blinds...how aggressive is table etc...all of those are factors to me over the 5 bb's five big blinds can be a lot of space or might be a breaking point

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

Thank u @thetick33

For ur valuable advice!

 

[thetick33]

Thank u @thetick33

For ur valuable advice!

im a little too aggro but the one rule ive gotten danny n he said you can never lose without going all in...i took that to heart listen sometimes even hahaha

 

[dompoker]

K10 the same color if it's all in, but K10off I think it's not a good idea to go all in in utg.

 

[suspectdevice]

Hey, these are spots that are easily available by checking with software such as rangetrainer or gtowizard. Preflop is mostly solved and by investing minimal money and some study time you can drill preflop ranges into your head.