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How would you guys play this flop?

Player after 50 hands has VPIP 4 PFR 4 *I don't know if he was in sit out for some hands.


pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - 75/150 - 9 players
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UTG: 9,704 (65 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): 5,754 (38 bb)
MP: 5,666 (38 bb)
MP+1: 4,999 (33 bb)
LP: 2,451 (16 bb)
CO: 2,425 (16 bb)
BU: 2,307 (15 bb)
SB: 6,200 (41 bb)
BB: 5,930 (40 bb)

Pre-Flop: (225) Hero is UTG+1 with 7 7
1 fold, Hero raises to 450, 1 fold, MP+1 calls 450, 5 players fold

Flop: (1,125) 2 3 7 (2 players)
Hero bets 349, MP+1 folds

Total pot: 1,125
UTG+1 (Hero) wins 1,125
 
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Preflop:
I think your open of 3 BBs is quite high with a medium PP since you're less than 40 BBs deep. To me something around 2.5 BBs seems more reasonable.

Flop:
A set, amazing!
The decision if I'm slowplaying depends a lot of the flop texture.
We have a rainbow one, so pretty safe with the flush draws. There are some straight draws with low connectors or A4/A5 but I doubt they're in the MP+1 range.
So there is a high chance he has nothing and no strong draw here.

You decided to bet and already went pretty low and he indeed folded, too bad!

One could also decide to check here and see if he bet or if he checks back, there won't many super scary cards on turn. Maybe he can collect anything and might call a bet on the later street.

Independent of the turn card, I'd still go with a small bet as he have to build a pot at some point.

A shame you didn't get much value out of your set but that's unfortunately the case when the cards are this low and no blind or BN involved.
 
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How would you guys play this flop?

Player after 50 hands has VPIP 4 PFR 4 *I don't know if he was in sit out for some hands.


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 75/150 - 9 players
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UTG: 9,704 (65 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): 5,754 (38 bb)
MP: 5,666 (38 bb)
MP+1: 4,999 (33 bb)
LP: 2,451 (16 bb)
CO: 2,425 (16 bb)
BU: 2,307 (15 bb)
SB: 6,200 (41 bb)
BB: 5,930 (40 bb)

Pre-Flop: (225) Hero is UTG+1 with 7 7
1 fold, Hero raises to 450, 1 fold, MP+1 calls 450, 5 players fold

Flop: (1,125) 2 3 7 (2 players)
Hero bets 349, MP+1 folds

Total pot: 1,125
UTG+1 (Hero) wins 1,125
absolutely standard hand, you could of course play a check on the flop, provoking your opponent to bet, or give him the opportunity to strengthen something on the turn and river (if he checks next) well, how it was played is also, in principle, nothing criminal));)
 
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Just a side note, I have a special color that I use on my HUD to color code players that sit out while they are at the table with me. Once I am at the table with them for 10 hands or so and they are sitting out I color code them so I know if I ever sit with them again that they have some sit out hands. It's a way to know in the future if their HUD is skewed and I suggest if you are not currently doing this or have some system of tagging a player when they sit out at your table that you begin to do so.

I also believe you should 2.5x open here instead of 3x based on 38 BBs. Not a gigantic mistake but one you should change going forward. I think you may have used 3x here since 77 is vulnerable post flop against a lot of players but some players will pick up on your 3x vs 2.5x regular sizing if indeed you were thinking to raise more to deter callers and normally would have used 2.5x.

I know you said villain potentially sat out some hands but this is a spot where your HUD stats for fold to c bet % is crucial. I am basing my action here solely on villains fold to c bet%. If they fold to a lot of c bets and therefore dont float then I am checking here. If they fold in the middle to c bets (50% give or take) then I bet small here but larger than you (will get to that below). If villain rarely folds to c bets (35% fold and lower) then not only am I betting here but I probably will bet larger than normal knowing their propensity to call and also it makes my hand look a little bluffier (potentially anyway) and can get me more value. Also as a side note, I dont like check raising here since unless we are someone who has a history against the villain and check raises against them a lot and they know that, we are tipping our hand check raising here since how many hands could we have that are really strong on this board knowing villain never thinks we check raise as a bluff. If villain never thinks its a bluff then they know its overpair at the minimum.

Your bet sizing I am not a fan of. You have the right idea if we are readless here that we should either check or bet small. However, we dont want to bet so small that it looks like we are begging for a call. I think if we are to bet readless here then the sizing should be something round number ish like 500. Under half pot but not 1/4th pot or in that neighborhood. On this board when we bet that small we look like we are trying like hell to get called. If we had air or even a showdown hand like Ax wouldnt we either bet to take it down or just check and evaluate? We would never ( I think) split the difference and make a small bet with Ax where when we get called we are not really sure what the hell is going on. I think your sizing here cost you some value since you made a bet that made villain potentially think "why this sizing".
 
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Preflop
3BB open is very large with these stack sizes. Personally I go 2,5BB.

Flop
As others have said, this is a very dry flop, where its extremely difficult for him to have hit. Especially when you have top set blocking most of the top pair. But with that being said you picked a nice small sizing, and he is supposed to float you a lot on a board like this, when you go small. So most likely this is just a player, who need to have a hand to put chips into the pot. And in that case you are not getting value from him by checking, unless he improve on the turn, which most of the time he wont.

So its just one of those, where we need to remember, that poker is a long term game. A lot of the time we will have hands like A high or K high on this board, and then its absolutely fantastic, if the opponent will simply give up to a small C-bet, even when he has position. An opponent like this will let you win many small easy pots, which more than compensates for the fact, you wont get paid, unless you put some kind of perfect cooler on him.
 
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Many posters here suggests smaller pf raise, let me be be a devil's advocate on this. In around 50% spots I would reraise with small pockets, I also like to open them higher, for balance. Reasoning is you are disguised behind premium hands, you can cb on broadway board and get some folds, also when you hit a set it's easier to get paid.
 
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Raising 77 UTG is a little loose but ok. I like a 2x open. This miracle flop is great for checking.
 
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I personally would have played this hand the same way. So well done...
 
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Pre-flop: 3x is very high at <40bb effective. I normally reserve 3x for 100bb+. At less than 40bb, I prefer2.2-2.3x.

Flop: Always nice to flop a set, but the flop is unlikely to connect well with villains range very often and with such a low, dry board, I think think this is a good board to check or bet small. I think your bet is absolutely fine.
 
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