Marginal or...call? in bounty tournament

[Tuoppi76]

GG Poker - 200/400 Ante 60 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

UTG: 10,000 (25 bb)
UTG+1: 24,489 (61.2 bb)
MP: 19,123 (47.8 bb)
MP+1: 9,133 (22.8 bb)
CO: 6,247 (15.6 bb)
BTN: 6,769 (16.9 bb)
SB: 18,130 (45.3 bb)
Hero (BB): 30,080 (75.2 bb)

8 players post ante of 60, SB posts 200, Hero posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,080) Hero has
5 folds, BTN raises to 6,709 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 6,309

Flop: (14,098, 2 players)

Turn: (14,098, 2 players)

River: (14,098, 2 players)

Results: 14,098 pot (0 rake)
Final Board:

BTN shows : (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 28%, Turn 32%)

Hero shows : (Two Pair, Sixes and Twos)
(Pre 53%, Flop 72%, Turn 68%)

BTN wins 14,098

 

[YevheniiKobliuk]

No luck, don't be upset happens)

 

[fundiver199]

Given that someone sat with exactly 10.000 chips, I will assume, this was the starting stack. If the opponent had the starting bounty of 25% of the buyin, his bounty was then worth at least 2.500 chips. The number goes up, the more players have already busted. This mean, you were paying 6.309 to win a pot of 14.098 + 2.500 = 16.598, so you needed 38% equity against his range to make a profitable call. I think, any pair has to be a call getting such odds against a BTN shove, which should be a pretty wide range. Especially since it was only for your small percentage of a stack, meaning that ICM considerations were not important.

 

[Tuoppi76]

Given that someone sat with exactly 10.000 chips, I will assume, this was the starting stack. If the opponent had the starting bounty of 25% of the buyin, his bounty was then worth at least 2.500 chips. The number goes up, the more players have already busted. This mean, you were paying 6.309 to win a pot of 14.098 + 2.500 = 16.598, so you needed 38% equity against his range to make a profitable call. I think, any pair has to be a call getting such odds against a BTN shove, which should be a pretty wide range. Especially since it was only for your small percentage of a stack, meaning that ICM considerations were not important.

Yes, just the starting bounty. Pretty much how I thought it too (roughly). Wouldnt have called with 35-40bb or less.

 

[LemonadeJooe]

Pretty standard coinflip, with you being slight favourite.
Good call because there was no other caller.
If there was even one more all-in, fold would be preferred with such a small pair,
as equity diminishes drastically.

 

[Tuoppi76]

Pretty standard coinflip, with you being slight favourite.
Good call because there was no other caller.
If there was even one more all-in, fold would be preferred with such a small pair,
as equity diminishes drastically.

Yep, would have folded if SB got involved.

 

[fundiver199]

Wouldnt have called with 35-40bb or less.

I think, 66 is still a call, as long as you cover and can win his bounty. Maybe the smallest pairs like 22-33 could lean more towards a fold, if its for a big percentage of your stack.

 

[neptunas888]

I recently had a similar situation with pocket 10s and if it was a regular tournament I would have folded it preflop to an all-in. But it was a bounty and I took a chance and lost against KQ

 

[Tigroslav]

It really depends on how you want to play it. I usually fold small pairs there but call is not wrong.

 

[Matt_Burns88]

I think this is a fairly easy call in a bounty tournament when you cover villain. It becomes a much more marginal call without bounties.

 

[fundiver199]

I think this is a fairly easy call in a bounty tournament when you cover villain. It becomes a much more marginal call without bounties.

Without bounties I would usually fold here. 16,9BB is a very large open jam, so we are not getting a good price. And while we could occationally be against a hand like 44 or A5, which we are ahead off, the vast majority of the time we will be "flipping" against two overcards or be a 4:1 dog against a hand like 77-JJ. I will actually somewhat discount QQ+, because I think, those hands prefer to min-raise to get more action. But even so this would be break-even at best without the bounties.