$5 NL HD MTT: QJo

[Geo90]

Game

Hold'em

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No Limit

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MTT

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5

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1. Bounty

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Today we are at the analysis anyway, it is still the same competition

Pf: I could have dropped UTG, but I'm playing a little looser and trying to collect chips during the rebuy period.

F: Maybe the Cbet could have been bigger, but I can't throw a line puller or a flush puller here, I think maybe with overbet.

A: For me, this was another bad card because I didn't have a flush, I got a hole card with a second pair and I didn't want to build the pot any further, so I threw it.

R: Gto says I should have kept this at 82%, but could R be bluffing in this case? Because I don't think he'd bluff at a flop raise.

 

[primrose]

Flop: I would always cbet small on a flop like this. If opponent completely missed, then they'll fold regardless of your size

Turn: check for sure

River: this is a really tough one. Generally this type of thing, like a BB bet for 75% pot after you check the turn, should be a call with second pair. This is a spot where a lot of people will bluff.

However... with this particular texture it's hard to find a lot of bluffs your opponent can have now that called your flop bet. Any K beats you. A Q won't bluff because it has showdown value. A lower pair might not bluff for the same reason. Clubs got there. JT also got there.

I think folding is probably correct, but don't get into the habit of folding to a normal sized River bet after you show weakness on the Turn.

 

[eetenor]

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Today we are at the analysis anyway, it is still the same competition

Pf: I could have dropped UTG, but I'm playing a little looser and trying to collect chips during the rebuy period.

F: Maybe the Cbet could have been bigger, but I can't throw a line puller or a flush puller here, I think maybe with overbet.

A: For me, this was another bad card because I didn't have a flush, I got a hole card with a second pair and I didn't want to build the pot any further, so I threw it.

R: Gto says I should have kept this at 82%, but could R be bluffing in this case? Because I don't think he'd bluff at a flop raise.

It is a very good idea to build chips but we do not want to have reverse implied odds post flop

PF-- QJ off is to lose from UTG- just too many players to flat behind you and they will be flatting KJ KQ AJ and suited cards to realize equity vs your weak holding.

Flop --Small bet is fine vs standard V- they do not play gto so we do not as well
We want to be thinking about ranges here- SB BB range combo on this flop is not great for our holding

Turn---BB range calling on flop is well connected to the turn board- check back is the best play

River You have to have a read that the V bluffs agg often to call this bet. If the player pool is weak we can just let it go and not put ourselves in ugly UTG spots going forward---hero calls happen when the field is strong and we cannot just get easy chips in other hands

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Yes this is a little loose. I would generally need at least KJo or QJs to open here.

Flop
Both checking back and small C-bet are reasonable options here. The hand dont need a lot of protection, since the only overcard, that can come, is an ace. The most important is, that your plan for the hand involve checking back either flop or turn. Unless of course you bet the flop and hit another Q on the turn. This is fine to go bet, bet, bet.

Turn
Since you bet flop, turn is a check back for pot control.

River
In general the idea, when we play this pot control game, is to call a river bet. You have not shown a lot of strength in this hand by making a small C-bet on the flop, which he called closing the action (SB had already folded), and then check back the turn. The turn card was bad and completed a lot of draws, but the river card was good, since it cut out 1/3 of his top pair combos. It would be better to have a club in your hand, but you do at least block the straight having one of the four jacks.

So I think, this one is at least close, and if you never bluff catch in these kind of spots, you are probably being run over quite a bit. It is a somewhat large sizing, but you still only need to win this like 30% of the time, and you are giving your opponent a ton of credit for always having a hand, that beat you here. You are essentially assuming, he will never attack weaknees but only bet the river for value with trips or better.

 

[Geo90]

Flop: Egy ilyen flopnál mindig kis lapokkal folytatnám a cbetet. Ha az ellenfél teljesen mellélő, akkor a lapjaid méretétől függetlenül dobni fog.

Fordulás: ellenőrizze a biztonság kedvéért

River: ez egy nagyon nehéz eset. Általában az ilyen típusú dolgok, mint például egy BB bet a pot 75%-áért, miután passzoltál a turnön, egy második párral megadásnak számítanak. Ez egy olyan szituáció, ahol sokan blöffölnek.

Azonban... ezzel a különleges textúrával nehéz sok blöfföt találni az ellenfelednek, ami megadja a flop tétedet. Bármelyik K legyőz. Az AQ nem fog blöffölni, mert terítési értéke van. Egy alacsonyabb párral talán nem lehet blöffölni ugyanezen okból. A treffek is bejöttek. A JT is bejött.

Szerintem a dobás valószínűleg helyes, de ne szokj hozzá, hogy egy normál méretű river tétre is dobj, miután gyengeséget mutattál a turnön.

Thank you all for the answers, I feel like with this couple of hands of analysis I have learned a lot from you in the last few days, for which I am grateful.

I try to keep this in mind, because this river card is really a good opportunity for the opponent to bluff, and sometimes I also have to place the bet and take notes so that I can make the right decision in the future.

 

[Geo90]

Nagyon jó ötlet zsetonokat gyűjteni, de nem szeretnénk fordított implicit esélyeket a flop után.

PF – QJ off, hogy veszít az UTG ellen – túl sok játékos tart mögötted, és KJ KQ AJ-t és egyszínű lapokat tartani, hogy gyenget realizáljanak a lapjaiddal szemben.

Flop --A kis tét rendben van a standard V ellen - nem játszanak gto-t, szóval mi sem vagyunk olyan jók.
A laptartományokra kell gondolnunk - az SB BB laptartomány kombinációja ezen a flopnál nem túl jó a lapjainknak.

Turn --- A BB range flopnál megadása jól kapcsolódik a turn boardhoz - a check back a legjobb játék.

River Ahhoz, hogy megadd ezt a tétet, ismerned kell a V-re vonatkozó becslést, ami azt jelenti, hogy gyakran blöfföl agg-el. Ha gyenge a játékos, akkor egyszerűen elengedhetjük, és nem kerülhetünk csúnya UTG helyzetbe a bázison – a hős megadás akkor történik, amikor erős a mezőny, nem tudunk könnyű zsetonokat szerezni mások kezében.:bizonytalan:

In mystery bounty tournaments I usually play late at night because I usually only get there in the evening, with loose ranks I try to build chips by playing more aggressively, I also get there with 2-3 doubles and large chips when bounties are activated because it is very annoying when I miss a big bonus due to 2-3 BB chips, these bounty tournaments they don't pay well up to the final table, but with a little luck you can get two better bounties, but that's just my perception of these tournaments, which can be wrong because sometimes I risk a lot of chips with weaker ones.

Thank you, I will try to decide with the stakes at river or I will play a little tighter from early positions.

 

[Geo90]

Preflop
Igen, ez egy kicsit laza. Általában legalább KJo-ra vagy QJ-re lenne szükségem a nyitáshoz.

Flop
Mind a passzolás, mind a kis C-bet ésszerű opciók lehetnek. A kéz nem igényel sok védelmet, mivel az egyetlen lehetséges felső lap egy ász. A legfontosabb, hogy a terv az legyen, hogy passzolj akár a flopnál, akár a turnnél. Kivéve persze, ha a flopnál nyitsz, és a turnön újabb Q-t kapsz. Ez rendben van, ha csak nyitsz, nyitsz, nyitsz.

Fordulat
Mivel a flopnál nyitottál, a turn egy sakk a pot kontrollja érdekében.

Folyó
Általánosságban elmondható, hogy amikor ezt a potkontroll játékot játsszuk, az a lényeg, hogy megadjuk a river tétet. Nem mutattunk sok erőt ebben a leosztásban azzal, hogy egy kis C-tétet tettünk a flopnál, amit ő megadott, lezárva az akciót (SB már dobott), majd checkeltünk a turnön. A turn lap rossz volt, és sok húzót lezárt, de a river lap jó volt, mivel a top pár kombinációinak 1/3-át kivágta. Jobb lenne, ha lenne egy treff a kezedben, de legalább blokkolod a sort, ha a négy bubi egyike van.

Szóval szerintem ez legalább közel áll az eredményhez, és ha soha nem blöffölsz elkapáskor ilyen helyzetekben, akkor valószínűleg elég sokan leütnek. Ez egy kissé nagy méret, de még mindig csak az esetek 30%-ában kell megnyerned, és rengeteg elismerést adsz az ellenfelednek, amiért mindig van egy olyan keze, amivel legyőzhet. Lényegében azt feltételezed, hogy soha nem fog gyenge ellenfeleket támadni, hanem csak a riveren nyit értékért triplákkal vagy jobb lapokkal.

Okay, thanks, and actually, if you only bluff once out of 3, I'm in the plus, but it's hard to think about these situations while playing, but if I always play like that, they're easy to bluff out in those situations.

 

[primrose]

Thank you all for the answers, I feel like with this couple of hands of analysis I have learned a lot from you in the last few days, for which I am grateful.

Happy to hear it :-)

 

[Geo90]

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