$5.50 NL HE MTT: JJ vs a BB 4-bet pre-flop

[mariussica88]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

5.50

Game Options

1. Bounty

Currency

$

This is a $5.50 Bounty Tournament, the starting stack is 25000 chips and also this is the 20th hand played, so late reg is still open since it is the beginning of the tournament. Min bounty is $1.25.

How would you play pre-flop? Also how would you play on the turn?

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 150/300 (45 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 24,994 (83 bb)
UTG+1: 18,480 (62 bb)
MP: 24,639 (82 bb)
MP+1: 18,296 (61 bb)
CO (Hero): 49,168 (164 bb)
BU: 9,730 (32 bb)
SB: 28,243 (94 bb)
BB: 26,630 (89 bb)

Pre-Flop: (810) Hero is CO with J♣ J♦
UTG raises to 600, UTG+1 calls 600, 2 players fold, Hero 3-bets to 3,132, 2 players fold, BB 4-bets to 5,764, 2 players fold, Hero calls 2,632

Flop: (13,238) 3♦ T♣ 8♣ (2 players)
BB bets 3,310, Hero calls 3,310

Turn: (19,858) 4♥ (2 players)
BB bets 17,511 (all-in), CO (Hero) ?

 

[primrose]

Classic Spot. Fold, I think, but it is close. Opponent's line -- tiny 4bet, small Flop bet, Turn all-in -- looks extremely strong. It's a stretch to give him AK or 99-, which are the only hands you beat.

You need to be good here just under 1/3 of the time, and I'd guess you're good about, idk, 1/4 of the time or something.

If the bounty part matters then maybe it's a call. It's not like I'd be shocked if he's bluffing.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
There is a cold caller, which increase the incentive to 3-bet, but with deeper stacks JJ is often just called against an EP open in GTO play, because its really bad to face a 4-bet. Moreover if you are going to 4-bet, I dont think, you need to risk quite that much in position. 2.400 chips or 4 x the open should be enough. The 4-bet did happen, and given the sizing I guess, you need to call.

Flop
Given the small sizing I think, you need to call again.

Turn
Its sort of close. You are basically getting 2:1, so you need to be good 1 in 3 times in chip EV. A bit less due to the bounty. There are 18 combos of QQ+, which of course you lose to, and potentionally 16 combos of AK. But does AK always bluff, and does AK always 4-bet pre? I think, some players will basically have a 4-betting range of aces and kings in a situation like this, where its an UTG open, and they are cold 4-betting out of the blinds with chips left behind. Without info on the Villain I lean towards a fold here.