$330 NL HE MTT: GG masters ITM, OOP as pre flop aggresor

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ITM (220 in the money), 149 left, I am 69

UTG 25,3 bb (300$ bounty), hero utg 26 bb (150$ bounty), LJ 35,7 bb (384$ bounty), HJ 21,4 bb (281$ bounty), Co 66,5bb (541$ bounty), BU 31bb (150$ bounty), sb 85bb, BB 11bb (403$ bounty). Starting bounty 75$

Hero raises 2,2bb, Co (loose and aggresive 32% vpip, 3b 12%) calls, folds

flop (Js4c8c) 6,9bb pot

2x checks

Turn Qs

hero bets 3,4bb, villain calls

River 3h (13,7bb stack)

Hero bets 6bb (14,4 bb remaining stack), villain all in

Any thought?

On flop I gave up, but when he checked and on turn I got double gut shot, so stabbed, on river I felt obliged to bluff.

Any opinions, how do you play it? Do you bluff river? What sizings, mayby check raise on river?
 
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Maybe I oversee but I think you missed posting your hole cards?
 
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Preflop
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Flop
You pretty much missed the board completely, and you are certainly not supposed to range bet all flops out of position against a player, who have you covered. So I think, this is just a check-fold, but luckily he checks back.

Turn
As you say, you now have a draw. Its not the best draw, since half of your outs will also put a potential flush on the table. But even so it seems like a reasonable situation to start a 2-street bluff. You are basically saying, you have a hand like AQ or KQ, or maybe you sandbagged something on the flop. Those hands would likely want to stack off, so this is also, what I would plan to do with my bluffs, and to set it up for that, I would bet a bit larger than this. Putting in even just one more BB sets it up, so that a river jam is not an overbet but slightly under full pot.

River
I like bluffing with this hand, because you dont block either of the two busted flushdraws. But I think, your sizing should be all-in, and this should have been prepared already on the turn. As played you obviously have to fold to his jam. I dought, he bluffed you, so you likely saved some chips here by not following my advice :)
 
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ITM (220 in the money), 149 left, I am 69

UTG 25,3 bb (300$ bounty), hero utg 26 bb (150$ bounty), LJ 35,7 bb (384$ bounty), HJ 21,4 bb (281$ bounty), Co 66,5bb (541$ bounty), BU 31bb (150$ bounty), sb 85bb, BB 11bb (403$ bounty). Starting bounty 75$

Hero raises 2,2bb, Co (loose and aggresive 32% vpip, 3b 12%) calls, folds

flop (Js4c8c) 6,9bb pot

2x checks

Turn Qs

hero bets 3,4bb, villain calls

River 3h (13,7bb stack)

Hero bets 6bb (14,4 bb remaining stack), villain all in

Any thought?

On flop I gave up, but when he checked and on turn I got double gut shot, so stabbed, on river I felt obliged to bluff.

Any opinions, how do you play it? Do you bluff river? What sizings, mayby check raise on river?
So we want to be using certain strategies when playing bounty tournaments- The main strategy is to know our V are over calling to capture the bounty- Therefore stabs on turns followed by small river bluffs are less effective than in normal MTT.

In a B-MTT we would not be checking our made hands as we expect to get called by a wide range on this board- so checking then betting bluffs on turn is less effective- We therefore would not be checking Qx hands on this flop either. AQ KQ QJ QTs Q9s are all betting small and we should not be opening QX worse than that UTG in a bounty MTT. However our V is calling all their QXsuited hands in a bounty MTT.

So you had AT which is bottom of range GTO to open in an MTT but you may consider shaving that off in B-MTT because of the added incentive for players to call a wider range of suited hands

So on this river our V can have several two pair hands 64s 86s they may even have 66 chasing that bounty

It is never bad to just give up on our bottom of range hands so even though we picked up a double gutter we may have only half our outs
because of the flush draws an our ace could be dead vs A4 check back hands

:unsure::geek:
 
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Preflop
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Flop
You pretty much missed the board completely, and you are certainly not supposed to range bet all flops out of position against a player, who have you covered. So I think, this is just a check-fold, but luckily he checks back.

Turn
As you say, you now have a draw. Its not the best draw, since half of your outs will also put a potential flush on the table. But even so it seems like a reasonable situation to start a 2-street bluff. You are basically saying, you have a hand like AQ or KQ, or maybe you sandbagged something on the flop. Those hands would likely want to stack off, so this is also, what I would plan to do with my bluffs, and to set it up for that, I would bet a bit larger than this. Putting in even just one more BB sets it up, so that a river jam is not an overbet but slightly under full pot.

River
I like bluffing with this hand, because you dont block either of the two busted flushdraws. But I think, your sizing should be all-in, and this should have been prepared already on the turn. As played you obviously have to fold to his jam. I dought, he bluffed you, so you likely saved some chips here by not following my advice :)
Maybe a bit off-topic but I'm still very interested in what heuristics you use to define whether a hand like this becomes a 1-street or a 2-street bluff, especially in this spot where the 2-street bluff would be a river jam.

Could you please elaborate a bit more on that? :)
 
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bomb turn n bomb river. you lose only to sets and KQ pretty much.
Hope this helps and Good Luck!
 
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