$11 NL HE MTT: AK

[Geo90]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

11

Game Options

1. Bounty

Currency

$

None of the Bonutys were active in any of the tournaments here, these were consecutive hands

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/?hand=1aTO0wa
On the first hand I made a mistake preflop because I didn't 3-bet, the next blind level the bounties were activated I was in a good position in the tournament, so I thought I wouldn't 3-bet, I didn't want to build a big pot,

F: a check raise might have been better and then I know where I stand

T: same here, check raise would have been a better play

R:if I called on two streets I should have made this small call, 3600 to call 22200 pot, 16% share here I think I played all streets wrong

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/?hand=1aTO0Es

PF: It's the raise I think is good

Flop: the cbet is ok

R: should have folded here, we don't have a flush draw

R: could have called here again, I needed a 12% cut, sometimes there will be bluffs

 

[primrose]

I think you have to decide whether you want to rep an overpair or not. If you do, you have to play the hand much stronger.

Second hand Turn, just go all-in. That's the move that might get smaller pocket pairs to fold. If you had JJ you wouldn't bet small, so opponent won't believe you have JJ.

First hand, you can play it like you did. You can also check-jam the Flop. Or the Turn. Idk which play is best, it's a difficult one.

 

[Geo90]

I think you have to decide whether you want to rep an overpair or not. If you do, you have to play the hand much stronger.

Second hand Turn, just go all-in. That's the move that might get smaller pocket pairs to fold. If you had JJ you wouldn't bet small, so opponent won't believe you have JJ.

First hand, you can play it like you did. You can also check-jam the Flop. Or the Turn. Idk which play is best, it's a difficult one.

I don't want to turn 40-50BB into a bluff

I think the GTO should have been raised by 10BB

 

[primrose]

I don't think GTO matters at these stakes (but I've said this lots of times before so don't wanna repeat the point).

 

[Geo90]

I don't think GTO matters at these stakes (but I've said this lots of times before so don't wanna repeat the point).

Yes, you have mentioned it several times but out of curiosity I used to watch the 1 free hand , what do you think is the right play

 

[sandy358]

I don't want to turn 40-50BB into a bluff

I think the GTO should have been raised by 10BB
View attachment 388334

Pure GTO won't work here, you are playing against a limper, you have to go with your reads in handling that person. You probably floated alright, the villain made ant bets. Though I would probably stay with ace-high on this river even despite the 1-card straight available, but solely because your opponent bet 10% pot (Though depends on how your opponent plays, considering your opponent's actions, going full GTO and fitting MDF quotas may be quite useless? But, again, depends on your reads).

 

[sandy358]

None of the Bonutys were active in any of the tournaments here, these were consecutive hands

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/?hand=1aTO0wa
On the first hand I made a mistake preflop because I didn't 3-bet, the next blind level the bounties were activated I was in a good position in the tournament, so I thought I wouldn't 3-bet, I didn't want to build a big pot,

F: a check raise might have been better and then I know where I stand

T: same here, check raise would have been a better play

R:if I called on two streets I should have made this small call, 3600 to call 22200 pot, 16% share here I think I played all streets wrong

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/?hand=1aTO0Es

PF: It's the raise I think is good

Flop: the cbet is ok

R: should have folded here, we don't have a flush draw

R: could have called here again, I needed a 12% cut, sometimes there will be bluffs

Yeah, isoing with AKo against multiple limpers is a good play, but I'm not sure about the river. Again, we are playing against an ant bet here so a strong ace high might be in a shape to go towards the showdown, but again, it heavily depends on your reads, the villain here too plays very bad so let the exploits be your guide here.

 

[sandy358]

I don't want to turn 40-50BB into a bluff

I think the GTO should have been raised by 10BB
View attachment 388334

Basically, why it tells you to raise here is because BB 3betting raise is quite tight and good pair heavy, while CO caller is relatively in bad shape on this board. But this is not what actually happened in the actual game, CO raised a limper first, then you did not 3bet him, but called him. Basically at this point your range, your opponents' ranges, the number of your opponents are all from a completely different universe requiring a completely different solution (that's still kinda ignoring the fact that your opponent(s?) did not play anywhere close to GTO), so this analysis does not really work here.

 

[primrose]

Yes, you have mentioned it several times but out of curiosity I used to watch the 1 free hand , what do you think is the right play

As I said, if you had an overpair that's not exactly Aces, you'd just go all-in to get paid now while you're good. Like at the Turn in hand 2. If you want to win vs weak pairs, that's what you have to do.

 

[fundiver199]

Hand1

Preflop
3-betting is a little awkward with this stack size against an isolation raise, so I actually ok with just calling here. It also keeps the limper involved with a lot of dominated hands, and your EV from playing against him is likely higher than from playing against the guy, who isolated. It would be better, if you had position on both of them though.

Flop
I think, you have to call here. You are getting direct odds to draw to top pair, and you could have the best hand already. I dont think, AK need to bluff at this point.

Turn
Pretty much same as on the flop.

River
I think all options are actually on the table now. You could make a crying call thinking, that once in a moon a random fish actually does min-donk the flop and then bet turn and river with pure nothing. I dont think, this is the best board for it though, because so many hands hit a pair or a straight now. I would rather that line on a card, that paired the board. You could also check-jam as a bluff, representing that you rivered a straight. It only needs to work a little more than 1 in 3 times, and even a random fish might fold a 6 or a 5 now. Or you could fold, as you did. Sure its annoying, but you got to see all 5 cards, and you missed completely.

Hand2

Preflop
Like the isolation raise.

Flop
You can C-bet here, but you can also start more defensively with a check. You are not getting any better hands to fold, and not to many worse hands will call either. So if you bet, its mostly an equity denial bet.

Turn
I would definitely not fire again with just AK high. Just check and make a decision, if he bet. There is no shame in folding AK on the turn, when you missed completely.

River
He was shown strength by calling you twice, so in this one I would not do anything other than check-fold on the river. Once in a while you get bluffed, but more likely he just hit something, which beat your AK high. AK is not a great hand, when it missed. Most of the value comes from fold equity preflop and from hitting top pair and having the opponent kicker dominated.

 

[Geo90]

Pure GTO won't work here, you are playing against a limper, you have to go with your reads in handling that person. You probably floated alright, the villain made ant bets. Though I would probably stay with ace-high on this river even despite the 1-card straight available, but solely because your opponent bet 10% pot (Though depends on how your opponent plays, considering your opponent's actions, going full GTO and fitting MDF quotas may be quite useless? But, again, depends on your reads).

It would have been better if I had at least known what it was, and I could take notes the next time I have a situation like this

 

[Geo90]

Basically, why it tells you to raise here is because BB 3betting raise is quite tight and good pair heavy, while CO caller is relatively in bad shape on this board. But this is not what actually happened in the actual game, CO raised a limper first, then you did not 3bet him, but called him. Basically at this point your range, your opponents' ranges, the number of your opponents are all from a completely different universe requiring a completely different solution (that's still kinda ignoring the fact that your opponent(s?) did not play anywhere close to GTO), so this analysis does not really work here.

BUT if I 3bet to 18000 and he just calls, should I go all in on this flop? Then the pot gets so big I can't fold

 

[Geo90]

Hand1

Preflop
3-betting is a little awkward with this stack size against an isolation raise, so I actually ok with just calling here. It also keeps the limper involved with a lot of dominated hands, and your EV from playing against him is likely higher than from playing against the guy, who isolated. It would be better, if you had position on both of them though.

Flop
I think, you have to call here. You are getting direct odds to draw to top pair, and you could have the best hand already. I dont think, AK need to bluff at this point.

Turn
Pretty much same as on the flop.

River
I think all options are actually on the table now. You could make a crying call thinking, that once in a moon a random fish actually does min-donk the flop and then bet turn and river with pure nothing. I dont think, this is the best board for it though, because so many hands hit a pair or a straight now. I would rather that line on a card, that paired the board. You could also check-jam as a bluff, representing that you rivered a straight. It only needs to work a little more than 1 in 3 times, and even a random fish might fold a 6 or a 5 now. Or you could fold, as you did. Sure its annoying, but you got to see all 5 cards, and you missed completely.

Hand2

Preflop
Like the isolation raise.

Flop
You can C-bet here, but you can also start more defensively with a check. You are not getting any better hands to fold, and not to many worse hands will call either. So if you bet, its mostly an equity denial bet.

Turn
I would definitely not fire again with just AK high. Just check and make a decision, if he bet. There is no shame in folding AK on the turn, when you missed completely.

River
He was shown strength by calling you twice, so in this one I would not do anything other than check-fold on the river. Once in a while you get bluffed, but more likely he just hit something, which beat your AK high. AK is not a great hand, when it missed. Most of the value comes from fold equity preflop and from hitting top pair and having the opponent kicker dominated.

I know the Gto is not authoritative, but 2/3 part allin would go 1/3 raise,

3 street through micron not used to bluff but maybe he was an exception this time

Then it wasn't such a bad game in the second,T bet was then unnecessary

 

[Geo90]

Thank you all for your help!

Without you, I would not be able to make such progress! Good luck to everyone!


I thought it would end in a headusup

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/?hand=1a16DUHI I had to fail this one

 

[primrose]

Why check the River?

 

[Geo90]

Why check the River?

I didn't want to build the pot any further, I thought I had the A, I didn't expect it to have a colour :/