$109 NL HE MTT: WCOOP Main Event Low: Multiway Pot with TP

[Andyreas]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

109

Currency

$

Hey forum,

I am aware I played this hand badly and want to learn how to improve the next time.

I have AKs in MP and 3-bet to UTG raise. I get 4 callers!

Then I hit TP on wet board with wrong suit.

How to play here?

If I were to play the hand again, still not sure if or what to improve on flop but would probably have played check-fold on turn? Otherwise I'd have too many chips in pot to fold.

Any feedback highly appreciated.

pokerstars, $100 + $9 - Hold'em No Limit - 400/800 (100 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

Ewamp (UTG): 41,522 (52 bb)
D.Mendes112 (UTG+1): 99,848 (125 bb)
AndyreasDE (MP): 38,208 (48 bb)
ultramar (MP+1): 29,500 (37 bb)
luisdono (CO): 50,640 (63 bb)
joao_markus (BU): 97,415 (122 bb)
JurisSK (SB): 4,570 (6 bb)
frúity (BB): 58,948 (74 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,000) Hero (AndyreasDE) is MP with A♥ K♥
Ewamp (UTG) raises to 1,600, 1 fold, AndyreasDE (MP) 3-bets to 4,800, ultramar (MP+1) calls 4,800, 1 fold, joao_markus (BU) calls 4,800, 2 players fold, Ewamp (UTG) calls 3,200

Flop: (21,200) 4♠ A♦ 5♦ (4 players)
Ewamp (UTG) checks, AndyreasDE (MP) bets 10,600, ultramar (MP+1) folds, joao_markus (BU) calls 10,600, Ewamp (UTG) folds

Turn: (42,400) T♦ (2 players)
AndyreasDE (MP) bets 9,600, joao_markus (BU) raises to 26,800, AndyreasDE (MP) calls 13,108 (all-in)

River: (87,816) 6♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 87,816

Showdown:
joao_markus (BU) shows Q♦ J♦ (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 37%, Flop: 38%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

AndyreasDE (MP) shows A♥ K♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 63%, Flop: 62%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

joao_markus (BU) wins 87,816

 

[dallam]

Such an uncomfortable spot, with these 3 callers.

Pre move is obvious.

On flop we left 42bbs,two really close to our stack and a monster stack. Flop is already 26.5bbs which 63% of our stack. As 3 are in, our hand is really vurnerable, however we have to defend our top pair top kicker with a raise.

You chose to put a half-pot bet, and actually monster stack called us. Now with the sizeing you used here its pretty obvious that you have an Ace. And this person called our 6bb bet and still calling again our bet on flop, when you need to have an Ace and there're 1 left to act as well. So opps range determined in my eyes: flush draws, AQ, AJs (at least sets are out as they would reraise you). When the turn brough the third diamond, we are beating only 2 combinations [IF AsJs is a calling station]. So rather AQ or flush draws in opps hand, and that's only a single combination we are ahead.


Its easier to make reads when you know the exact hands and outcomes, and we are not in the whole game just in one hand. To be honest with you, when you had to raise in the pot which was already 63% of your stack, I see a gap here to not play this hand any other way to go all-in on flop, and pick up this huge pot or go broke. Or if you are willing to play and put a half-pot bet in, be able to make a hero fold however the pot is so huge that if the flush draws are picking up another outs on turn = a pair or straight draw as well, they would chase your shove either way (the donk bet was absolutely pointless tho), and you will end up the same with the third diamond on the board.

Saw the thread, great game and best of luck.

 

[D0nk3y Hunt3r]

You chose to put a half-pot bet, and actually monster stack called us. Now with the sizeing you used here its pretty obvious that you have an Ace. And this person called our 6bb bet and still calling again our bet on flop, when you need to have an Ace and there're 1 left to act as well. So opps range determined in my eyes: flush draws, AQ, AJs (at least sets are out as they would reraise you). When the turn brough the third diamond, we are beating only 2 combinations [IF AsJs is a calling station]. So rather AQ or flush draws in opps hand, and that's only a single combination we are ahead.

Agree, though I would add to the range. 4 callers with 3 bet is like a move from lower stakes tournament. Maybe pockets pf which were set mining, str draws, two pairs.

With 4 callers I would overbet the flop and then maybe went for hero fold.

 

[fundiver199]

I think, this one is mostly a cooler. The only thing, I would do different, is to check-call turn rather than bet-call. When you only have around a half pot sized bet left, I dont see a small bet doing much for you. If you check, you give him more room to bluff and keep his range wider. But mostly its just a hand, where someone made a questionable play preflop (cold calling a 3-bet with QJs) and then turned a flush. Sort of annoying, but it means, you were in a good game

 

[Matt_Burns88]

There are certainly things you could have done differently, but I'm not sure you really did anything wrong. Due to the huge pot on the flop, there's is certainly a case to go bigger with your c-bet and take it down there and then. Then as Fundiver says, I'd probably check/call the turn, but I don't think this is a huge error, if one at all; you just got unlucky.

 

[LemonadeJooe]

Pre-flop,
your are oop with many opps. left to act.
4x or even 5x of original raise is fine.
Or 3x of original raise+ 1bb for every opp. left to act.
Flop,
board is wet with both draws, here should be min. 75% of pot size bet, considering number of opp. i would bet 100%.
Turn,
another diamond we should slow down,
and fold to aggression as flush completes.

Conclusion,
we offered great pot odds both pre and post flop to call.
On turn, we did big mistake by betting when flush completed, which was almost only hand that would min raise pre flop and call our bet on flop.

All sets or top pocket pairs would bet large on the flop to protect their hand.
We need to re-evaluate our hand on each street.
As bluffs go, turn diamond would be great spot to bluff, however, not after 2 rounds of betting.
Maybe after flop bet and turn check, i might expect my opps. to bluff here about 5-7% of the time..

 

[eetenor]

Hey forum,

I am aware I played this hand badly and want to learn how to improve the next time.

I have AKs in MP and 3-bet to UTG raise. I get 4 callers!

Then I hit TP on wet board with wrong suit.

How to play here?

If I were to play the hand again, still not sure if or what to improve on flop but would probably have played check-fold on turn? Otherwise I'd have too many chips in pot to fold.

Any feedback highly appreciated.

PokerStars, $100 + $9 - Hold'em No Limit - 400/800 (100 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

Ewamp (UTG): 41,522 (52 bb)
D.Mendes112 (UTG+1): 99,848 (125 bb)
AndyreasDE (MP): 38,208 (48 bb)
ultramar (MP+1): 29,500 (37 bb)
luisdono (CO): 50,640 (63 bb)
joao_markus (BU): 97,415 (122 bb)
JurisSK (SB): 4,570 (6 bb)
frúity (BB): 58,948 (74 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,000) Hero (AndyreasDE) is MP with A♥ K♥
Ewamp (UTG) raises to 1,600, 1 fold, AndyreasDE (MP) 3-bets to 4,800, ultramar (MP+1) calls 4,800, 1 fold, joao_markus (BU) calls 4,800, 2 players fold, Ewamp (UTG) calls 3,200

Flop: (21,200) 4♠ A♦ 5♦ (4 players)
Ewamp (UTG) checks, AndyreasDE (MP) bets 10,600, ultramar (MP+1) folds, joao_markus (BU) calls 10,600, Ewamp (UTG) folds

Turn: (42,400) T♦ (2 players)
AndyreasDE (MP) bets 9,600, joao_markus (BU) raises to 26,800, AndyreasDE (MP) calls 13,108 (all-in)

River: (87,816) 6♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 87,816

Showdown:
joao_markus (BU) shows Q♦ J♦ (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 37%, Flop: 38%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

AndyreasDE (MP) shows A♥ K♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 63%, Flop: 62%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

joao_markus (BU) wins 87,816

So the best way to study this hand is to take the time to think about ranges now so you can apply them more quickly in game-so when the turn card comes how many combos of flushes can the btn have based on the preflop action-hint a lot not all but many-
Take the time to type out or write down all the combos that you think will call the turn bet that you beat and compare them to the combos that beat you or now have a very strong draw and that will help you decide to bet or not- then you think about the combos that would check raise and that will help you decide to fold or call

 

[ratbat615]

On those flops with our hand 🤚 so late ⏰ in the tournament 🏟 I would go all in to get the equity denial bet on .but with that run 🏃‍♀️ was so unfortunate sorry 😢 my friend but on the turn you know you were beat .just fold a and fight with $13.000 or14 bbs .and let me tell you I have won 🥇 tournaments with less. Run 🏃 good 👍 next time my friend love 💕.