$0.25 NL HE MTT:

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on this condition often happen in tournement. base on this situation, what action will you choose?
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We'd need the complete hand history and action before this turn action to be able to decide better.

Nevertheless I voted for call. He could also have got A7 but also an Ace with lower kicker.
 
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We'd need the complete hand history and action before this turn action to be able to decide better.
Exactly. Without a complete hand history we cant range the Villain properly. And this is a spot, that can go both ways. Yes we have top pair decent kicker, but the best hands, we beat, are A8 and A6, and are Villain really jamming them for value? If not we only beat a bluff, and its a pretty dry board, which usually tend to reduce the amount of bluff combos, he will show up with. On the other hand Hero already have around a third of his stack in the middle, so it can be argued, he is pot committed, and maybe he should just have jammed it in preflop.
 
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history hand :
SB/BB : 200/400
asgano chips (hero) : 8405 - BB position 400 (balance chips 8005)
obaqu chips (opponent 1) : 17765 (position CO)
Psiquico chips (opponent 2) : 9512/ Button position

pre flop:
opponent 1 bet 3BB = 1200
opponent 2 call 1200
hero call 800

Flop dealt (pot 4000)
opponent 1 : check
opponent 2 : bet 1400
hero : call 1400
opponent 1 : FOLD

Turn dealt with Total POT 6800
Hero : check
opponent 2 : ALL in 6912
Hero : ????
 
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We'd need the complete hand history and action before this turn action to be able to decide better.

Nevertheless I voted for call. He could also have got A7 but also an Ace with lower kicker.
history hand :
SB/BB : 200/400
asgano chips (hero) : 8405 - BB position 400 (balance chips 8005)
obaqu chips (opponent 1) : 17765 (position CO)
Psiquico chips (opponent 2) : 9512/ Button position

pre flop:
opponent 1 bet 3BB = 1200
opponent 2 call 1200
hero call 800

Flop dealt (pot 4000)
opponent 1 : check
opponent 2 : bet 1400
hero : call 1400
opponent 1 : FOLD

Turn dealt with Total POT 6800
Hero : check
opponent 2 : ALL in 6912
Hero : ????
 
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Exactly. Without a complete hand history we cant range the Villain properly. And this is a spot, that can go both ways. Yes we have top pair decent kicker, but the best hands, we beat, are A8 and A6, and are Villain really jamming them for value? If not we only beat a bluff, and its a pretty dry board, which usually tend to reduce the amount of bluff combos, he will show up with. On the other hand Hero already have around a third of his stack in the middle, so it can be argued, he is pot committed, and maybe he should just have jammed it in preflop.
history hand :
SB/BB : 200/400
asgano chips (hero) : 8405 - BB position 400 (balance chips 8005)
obaqu chips (opponent 1) : 17765 (position CO)
Psiquico chips (opponent 2) : 9512/ Button position

pre flop:
opponent 1 bet 3BB = 1200
opponent 2 call 1200
hero call 800

Flop dealt (pot 4000)
opponent 1 : check
opponent 2 : bet 1400
hero : call 1400
opponent 1 : FOLD

Turn dealt with Total POT 6800
Hero : check
opponent 2 : ALL in 6912
Hero : ????
 
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With this action I lean towards a call. It is a multiway pot, which should make betting ranges stronger, but on the other side BTN just called preflop, which make the best AX hands like AK or AQ a lot less likely. And he could be using his position to try to steal the pot. So even though you mostly only beat a bluff, I think, this hand is a bit to high in your range to fold. Especially considering how large the pot was already on the flop, and the fact you also dont have AK or AQ in your range, since you would also have 3-bet those hands preflop. So yeah. I close my eyes, pay him off and hope to see some random bluff or something, he is overvaluing. This is also an extremely low buyin, and some players will show up with totally random hands, that make no sense.
 
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With this action I lean towards a call. It is a multiway pot, which should make betting ranges stronger, but on the other side BTN just called preflop, which make the best AX hands like AK or AQ a lot less likely. And he could be using his position to try to steal the pot. So even though you mostly only beat a bluff, I think, this hand is a bit to high in your range to fold. Especially considering how large the pot was already on the flop, and the fact you also dont have AK or AQ in your range, since you would also have 3-bet those hands preflop. So yeah. I close my eyes, pay him off and hope to see some random bluff or something, he is overvaluing. This is also an extremely low buyin, and some players will show up with totally random hands, that make no sense.
correct, in theory regularwe learn toward a call. but it is a multyway pot. also low buy is. so the conclusions we can not used regular theory as like theory in small buy in.. its maybe work if we play in medium or high buy in. for small and freerol we better more tighter than than usually. when we hit on the pre flop make it high price to see the flop likes 3/4 pot. if he call we have becareful just see what they will do if he bet or raise, we better to let it go, let say he had 2 pair or higher than us and find another price than we loss much. because anybody can steal and make risk in low dan freeroll buy in
 

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Just because you lost the hand, does not mean, it was a bad call. We expect a hand like A7 to be part of his range, but that does not mean, its his entire range.
 
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