Free tournament tickets? No thanks!

[thedarkman]

Over the past few days my party poker account has been deluged with free tournament tickets. They are all 20p for super super super super satellite tournaments. I have decided not to waste my time on them.

 

[Huntre]

Over the past few days my Party Poker account has been deluged with free tournament tickets. They are all 20p for super super super super satellite tournaments. I have decided not to waste my time on them.

Time spend on war in countless rounds of sattelitte don't worth it?

 

[fundiver199]

Sounds like a reasonable decision to me.

 

[RALF_AK]

...satellites or tournaments with very cheap entry fees are not worth playing, they are merely bingo... not poker.

 

[hardongear]

Bingo lotteries for pennies aren't worth anything. The lotteries I play are worth enough millions to easily retire 3-5+ times over. Game selection matters just as much as anything when it comes to being a winning player.

More players need to understand it's not worth there time. For me the question always is how fast can I turn $50 into $500. Personally for me the answer for the last 15-20+ years has been starting at 2nl-10nl full-ring cash double tabling. Play enough volume and if you are an actually winning player it takes 3-5+ months depending on volume put in.

Once you got that $50 turned into $500 then I start mixing in $3-7(10+min blind level) MTT's on the weekend into my schedule. Because I actually prefer MTT's to playing cash. Yes the competition has improved over the years but for me this is still the best, easiest and quickest way.

Cheers!!!

 

[Snake2007]

Free tournaments where the prize is tickets seem like the biggest bullshit to me.

 

[monkeytilter]

Free tournaments where the prize is tickets seem like the biggest bullshit to me.

These tickets are for £ 1K Live Packages

 

[R.Melnyk77]

I think the best thing a poker player can do is to set priorities correctly. You can spend your time on all sorts of slag around the clock. Given that we only live once, I don't think it's right either.

 

[thedarkman]

I think the best thing a poker player can do is to set priorities correctly. You can spend your time on all sorts of slag around the clock. Given that we only live once, I don't think it's right either.

Gentlemen, we appear to have a consensus!

 

[fundiver199]

More players need to understand it's not worth there time. For me the question always is how fast can I turn $50 into $500.

Exactly. If your goal with poker is actually to "build a bankroll", then your focus should be on, how to achieve this as fast as possible, not how to achieve it without even risking a small amount of money like $50-100. And this is why, freerolls for pennies are a total waste of time, if your goal with poker is anything more than just having fun and killing time.

Once you got that $50 turned into $500 then I start mixing in $3-7(10+min blind level) MTT's on the weekend into my schedule. Because I actually prefer MTT's to playing cash. Yes the competition has improved over the years but for me this is still the best, easiest and quickest way.

I very much agree. I started out with cash games, but somewhere around 2019 I found out, that the winrate potential is significantly higher in MTTs. Barring rake-back deals you are lucky (or very good), if you get to keep more than 1/3 of your net win in cash games. But in MTTs it not that difficult to get to keep 2/3 or more, at least up to say $11 games give or take.

But MTTs with 10+ min blind levels are not really worth the time commitment, if your bankroll force you to play for a dollar or two at a time. Like... do you really want to commit to play for up to 6 hours, if the buyin is just $2.2 and the top prices correspondingly small? Also there are not that many games to select from, if your bankroll limit you to such stakes, so its more difficult to get a decent multitabling session going.

So at least for me a reasonable MTT bankroll is at least $500, and if you have less than that, you should be focusing on either cash games or SnGs. These games allow you much more flexibility, where you can play for as short or long a time, as you want, and they run all the time. Except maybe that these days SnGs dont run 24 hours anywhere but on pokerstars, and even there not so much, as they used to. Which then leave... cash games.

 

[hardongear]

Exactly. If your goal with poker is actually to "build a bankroll", then your focus should be on, how to achieve this as fast as possible, not how to achieve it without even risking a small amount of money like $50-100. And this is why, freerolls for pennies are a total waste of time, if your goal with poker is anything more than just having fun and killing time.

I very much agree. I started out with cash games, but somewhere around 2019 I found out, that the winrate potential is significantly higher in MTTs. Barring rake-back deals you are lucky (or very good), if you get to keep more than 1/3 of your net win in cash games. But in MTTs it not that difficult to get to keep 2/3 or more, at least up to say $11 games give or take.

But MTTs with 10+ min blind levels are not really worth the time commitment, if your bankroll force you to play for a dollar or two at a time. Like... do you really want to commit to play for up to 6 hours, if the buyin is just $2.2 and the top prices correspondingly small? Also there are not that many games to select from, if your bankroll limit you to such stakes, so its more difficult to get a decent multitabling session going.

So at least for me a reasonable MTT bankroll is at least $500, and if you have less than that, you should be focusing on either cash games or SnGs. These games allow you much more flexibility, where you can play for as short or long a time, as you want, and they run all the time. Except maybe that these days SnGs dont run 24 hours anywhere but on PokerStars, and even there not so much, as they used to. Which then leave... cash games.

"But MTTs with 10+ min blind levels are not really worth the time commitment, if your bankroll force you to play for a dollar or two at a time. Like... do you really want to commit to play for up to 6 hours, if the buyin is just $2.2 and the top prices correspondingly small? Also there are not that many games to select from, if your bankroll limit you to such stakes, so its more difficult to get a decent multitabling session going."

As a winning rec/hobby player who plans out his MTT's for the weekends and special series sites hold...YES...a billion percent I have no issue committing 6-8 hours to an MTT. Specially when 10+ min blinds removes a lot of luck, puts the game more towards skill/knowledge mattering and makes the MTT less of a lottery. Not saying you can win playing turbo events guys do.....but then the volume you have to play to overcome that extra variance is crazy. Playing that volume turbos still takes many many hours and hours. Either way you're gonna invest hours playing if you wanna be a winning player.

I simply choose to invest my hours in MTT's that are way less a lottery and play less volume. Kinda like quality or quantity. Too each their own. In the end me playing cash and MTT's allows me to at least break even between the two or allows me to grow my bankroll slowly by playing both till I nail that MTT deep run and win. Which I usually get 1-2 a year playing a few MTT's a week on weekend's.

Cheers!!!

 

[fundiver199]

Once you got that $50 turned into $500 then I start mixing in $3-7(10+min blind level) MTT's on the weekend into my schedule.

As a winning rec/hobby player who plans out his MTT's for the weekends and special series sites hold...YES...a billion percent I have no issue committing 6-8 hours to an MTT.

Think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here? I am not saying, MTTs are not worth committing 6-8 hours to, if you plan them for the weekend and have nothing else to do. I am just saying, than if you do that, you want to be playing for those $3-7, you mention yourself (or ideally even more), and not just $1-2, so that you can win some decent prices.

And this is why, with a bankroll of <$500 (give or take), you should be focusing on either cash games or SnGs. Or simply give yourself the nessesary bankroll and not waste your time playing the $1.1 "Big" on PokerStars against 2.000 other players. When I first moved from PokerStars to 888 Poker years ago, I did not start with a deposit of only $50-100. I just deposited $500 straight away, so I could play the games, I wanted to play.

 

[hardongear]

Think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here? I am not saying, MTTs are not worth committing 6-8 hours to, if you plan them for the weekend and have nothing else to do. I am just saying, than if you do that, you want to be playing for those $3-7, you mention yourself (or ideally even more), and not just $1-2, so that you can win some decent prices.

And this is why, with a bankroll of <$500 (give or take), you should be focusing on either cash games or SnGs. Or simply give yourself the nessesary bankroll and not waste your time playing the $1.1 "Big" on PokerStars against 2.000 other players. When I first moved from PokerStars to 888 Poker years ago, I did not start with a deposit of only $50-100. I just deposited $500 straight away, so I could play the games, I wanted to play.

Nah I think we're on the same page I likely could have explained a bit better. In my experience no matter whether you commit 6-8 to an MTT with blind levels of 10+ mins or play turbos one is likely gonna have to commit just as many hours to playing to get enough volume in to over come the extra variance turbos create when compared to 10+ min blind level MTT's. Which ever one chooses he still needs to play the hours. My schedule is great for the rec/hobby/part-time player. Saturday and Sundays when the most players are online and the GTDs are their highest I'm focusing on MTT's. Monday and Tuesdays are hand reviews(slowest days with the least amount of players online). Wednesday-Fridays I'm double tabling cash. Rinse and repeat.

Agree completely most anything under $3 for an MTT is pretty much not really worth playing. One has to start at least at $3 and personally I'd start at $5-$7....that's why having and the race for new players should always be $500+. And the best quickest way to that is starting with $50 @ 2nl and playing full-ring not freerolls.

Cheers!!!

 

[Station_Master]

Yeah its not worth the bother with these daft low entry satellites. Good decision!

 

[fundiver199]

In my experience no matter whether you commit 6-8 to an MTT with blind levels of 10+ mins or play turbos one is likely gonna have to commit just as many hours to playing to get enough volume in to over come the extra variance turbos create when compared to 10+ min blind level MTT's. Which ever one chooses he still needs to play the hours.

This is true. Everything else being equal the ROI for a winning player is higher with a slow structure, so the hourly winrate is probably pretty similar, and you pay less rake. The issue with slow tournaments is, that you dont know in advance, if you are going to play for 1, 2 or 6 hours. And this makes the format very unflexible. The extreme opposite is cash games, where you can sit out any moment.

And its this unflexibility, which I think is not worth it, unless you are playing for at least some sort of money. There is nothing I hate more than being stuck with one or more tournaments, when I have gotten really tired or simply just prefer to do something else. This does not mean, I never play MTTs with 10+ minute blinds. But I am very mindfull about, when I buy into such events, and its usually mostly in the morning on days, that I am not working.

 

[antonis32123]

I can't remember the last time I won sth from such a satellite. All these free days with or without ticket I think it is a waste of time . Very hard to win sth . Only to go to next phase and lose

 

[john_entony]

partypoker is not available in my country. So I can't say anything about the valuable of these tickets. But I think it's your personal freedom to use your time on poker rooms promotions. For example, I like the promotion at GGPoker, where every day I can get a free ticket with a buy-in of 0.25$.

 

[Cooking]

Those tickets are bad, but Party Poker offer a promotion that you can spin a wheel every friday, saturday and sunday to win tickets. Most of the times are those $0.11 or $0.22 tickets, but a few times I've already won $11 tickets, so, it's worth to login there on these days.

 

[heguli82]

No matter how hard i try to lose and be out of the tournament one or two places before the ticket prizes,because then you get usually instant cash; usually about 11 or 22d, i end up always havin the ticket😅. 55d power path ticket. My hands 52 and 73off cracks kings 2 times in that specific spot like no bigieAnd think about how great i run. First, i win 3 people spin and go for 1d ticket, then 16 people hyber sit and go for 11d ticket, then, even i do everything i can to end up a spot like those garbage hands against enemies premium, trying actually turn those tickets in cash,last being that 11d ticket, i just cant do it, i just dont lose. . And i think i have done this at least five times...where is that godrun when playing tournaments with entry fee?! I dont win that much flips whole yaer what i do on those satelites.

Tomorrow in that 55d tournament, if i bother play that, my role is to be out of the tournament after some kind of setup, within an hour 100%.

 

[Colbefc]

I've been getting lots of these free tickets for 20c etc and just ignore them, not worth
the effort .

 

[Mario7]

Well, IMHO it just depends on what skill and experience you have. For someone just starting, learning poker these 0,2$ free tickets could be a nice way to practice for free. And even if you feel you are a bit above complete begginer, it is not forbiden to use those tickets as bingo tickets and play all in several hands in a row quickly. If you loose them all in a few minutes it is not a big loss, but who knows perhaps you hit it?

No, getting anything for free is a decent price. At least for me

 

[amatola]

My plan for freerolls money from freerolls and those tiny tickets on party and GG.

Rule 1: I only play them when I am winding down the session, so have lots of free space on my monitor and they cannot be distracting

Rule 2: I play them as seriously as I would a normal mtt besides late regging, don't want to get into bad habits.

Rule 3: I use the cash from these to bump up my usual buyins. Example, I usual play up to $5.50 on party. But yesterday won $7 on cc platinum freeroll. Next session, probably Friday will play the $11 terminator. But on GG happy to add them up daily until they bump up my usual buyin.

 

[haskelcillo]

...satellites or tournaments with very cheap entry fees are not worth playing, they are merely bingo... not poker.

Truest comment on the forum

 

[LMmouse]

I've been getting lots of these free tickets for 20c etc and just ignore them, not worth
the effort .

We have freeroll and buy in tournament with cool prizes. For buy in, participant must have wagered $20 in the sponsored casino. That's all lol. We play on pokerclub.

 

[sandy358]

Free tournaments where the prize is tickets seem like the biggest bullshit to me.

Satellites are alright, especially if you understand the satellite strategy, they just require additional steps to extract real value from.

Unless it is one of those satellites to satellites to satellites, which are really annoying to deal with.