smknginmaine
Visionary
Silver Level
Interesting thought. But anti player and anti house.... so I'll bet my stack....not happening.
Interesting thought. But anti player and anti house.... so I'll bet my stack....not happening.
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LotharMcDowner
Rock Star
Silver Level
Yeah, after I wrote that I thought about it more... it obviously hurts the house, but I think if the goal is to prevent deep bankrolls from rebuying repeatedly it could work.
smknginmaine
Visionary
Silver Level
I believe the question was directed not at individual players but at the community. If actions are taken that are harmful for the majority of players those players may stop playing.
In Vegas right now Pro poker players are being pushed out of the biggest games because they crushed rich non pros for years. Now the rich players said no more.
Is it harmful to the majority of players?
I understand the words used and their arrangement..... But that's all I understand of what I bolded. Please elaborate.
I could tell you rocks taste like chicken, but only on Thursdays.
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smknginmaine
Visionary
Silver Level
Sure it could. But who's goal is that? Not the house. Not the other players. But you're right. It would work - preventing additional buy-ins. But players who want that can play freeze-outs. If they can find one, as the house doesn't care for those either..... But they're out there.
NWPatriot
Rock Star
Silver Level
From the article, I love the analogy of the best batter in baseball getting 4 strikes instead of 3 like everyone else. This is exactly how it feels to watch a player that you just destroyed, come back in because he has a much larger bankroll (or doesn't care about his bankroll). I personally will continue to seek out Freezeout tournaments because this puts all players on the same level of risk and should force each player to play their best at all times. Of course this is mitigated when the buyin period is 4 or 5 hrs, but that is another subject.
Is it good for poker?? i don't know. Is it good for me?? No. I don't like to play bingo or just plain old coin flip my way to a tournament victory. Re-buys force EVERYONE to play this way, or at least make decisions because someone else is.
I agree with SUPERMAN - i will continue to seek out Freezeout tournaments, because those are where everyone is on the same level as far as risk vs. reward.
Polytarp
Legend
Bronze Level
I agree. The initial length of time (3-4 hours) is crazy and the 30 to 90 minutes are far more reasonable. This is one reason why I don't play certain tournaments.
0546474
Legend
Bronze Level
I have nothing against poker tournaments with re-entry. But you should understand that this is an additional burden for your bankroll, be careful with such tournaments and determine in advance how many re-entrances are available to you !!!
mk0523
Legend
Silver Level
Which is why I don't they they should have them or don't make it a new thing that takes ground and becomes the new norm.
xOneCoolHandx
Legend
Bronze Level
I don't like these types of formats, they encourage loose plays from people trying to double up quickly and pushing any two. Live tournaments aren't quite as bad but online tourneys in this format are horrible. I try to limit playing in these type of tourneys but when I do I usually enter late into the registration period to avoid the push and pray players, If I do enter at the beginning, I usually play pretty tight for the first several rounds and then start to open up. Most of the time though, I stick to single entry tournaments.
onione6ix
Rock Star
Silver Level
Late registrations help the websites cover GTD prize pools. As a poker player shouldn't you be looking for soft player pools and overlays? Overlays are more rare with late registrations!
Late registrations are part of the game now, Imagine how small many games would be without it. On the other hand what about world beaters. Giving players who are at the very top of the curve unlimted bullets in a tournament. Yeah that sounds fair.
Late Registrations are garbage . nothing else could be siad to the contrary.
Late registrations are part of the game now, Imagine how small many games would be without it. On the other hand what about world beaters. Giving players who are at the very top of the curve unlimted bullets in a tournament. Yeah that sounds fair.
Late Registrations are garbage . nothing else could be siad to the contrary.
wagon596
Legend
Bronze Level
sedlacekj
Rock Star
Silver Level
I think this format is great for me. Anyone I bust out, can come back in and I can bust them a second time. lol lol. I don't think the concern in the article is correct, ie. that better bankrolled players have the advantage. Anyone can rebuy or reenter as long as they have access to the funds, bankroll or not. Sure the wealthier might have an advantage over the poor, but this doesn't mean the better poker players are at an advantage. Honestly if a wealthier rebuy/reentering person keeps reentering, and better poker players keep busting them, having the wealth doesn't do that player any good. Better poker skill goes a bit further than more reentries. I usually play lower stakes than the ones in the article, and playing in a reentry tourney works to my advantage, not because I need to rebuy or reenter, but because I win more cash once the game is over because all the reentering players inflated the prizepool. If the tourney is also attached to some kind of leader board, then even the reentering players can benefit by earning more points on the leader board even if they bust out 3 times (or 7!).
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acemenow
Legend
Bronze Level
I prefer freeze-outs!
My first experience with this where it mattered was winning a ticket to the Sunday Milly or whatever it was called on ACR in dec, 2016 thanks to some luck in a CC satellite event. IF I remember correctly the entry for the main event was close to or about $500. What I witnessed on the first table was 3-4 allins immediately and the same players continued this for a minimum of an hour but I think longer than that.
I got out of the way as often as I could and eventually was able to double up, but the blinds killed me when I went card dead. There were literally no hands that first hour or so that did not consist of a shove from one or two players. As I watched one of the players get knocked out 3 or 4 times with complete rags. Eventually all the ones re-buying (minimum of twice) and shoving every hand had 3 to 4x the stack of anyone else on the table and just continued pushing all in. I lasted 3-4 hours in that tourney somehow (if I remember correctly). Thing is the late reg for this event lasted about 10 hours or so.
I think I remember cc member Tahoeden was also in this tourney but not sure if he experienced anything similar or it was just my table.
But I did not look at it as unfair because the rules were explicit from the start so we go into these tourneys with eyes wide open. Grant it I did not put money up for this. And I would not purchase a ticket to an event like this due to the required bankroll needed for rebuys.
Live I will play $100 - $200 buyins at mohegun sun and foxwoods but the re-entry (not R/A) is only for a short time (forget the structure since I don't get to the casino often), and I do not mind it though I don't re-enter myself (yet anyway). I usually just sit at a cash game until I win my tourney loss back and then some or bust.
But the re-entry and R/A's do help the prize pool quite a bit when you only have 20-30 players so I don't mind it in these situations. Otherwise I just avoid them
My first experience with this where it mattered was winning a ticket to the Sunday Milly or whatever it was called on ACR in dec, 2016 thanks to some luck in a CC satellite event. IF I remember correctly the entry for the main event was close to or about $500. What I witnessed on the first table was 3-4 allins immediately and the same players continued this for a minimum of an hour but I think longer than that.
I got out of the way as often as I could and eventually was able to double up, but the blinds killed me when I went card dead. There were literally no hands that first hour or so that did not consist of a shove from one or two players. As I watched one of the players get knocked out 3 or 4 times with complete rags. Eventually all the ones re-buying (minimum of twice) and shoving every hand had 3 to 4x the stack of anyone else on the table and just continued pushing all in. I lasted 3-4 hours in that tourney somehow (if I remember correctly). Thing is the late reg for this event lasted about 10 hours or so.
I think I remember cc member Tahoeden was also in this tourney but not sure if he experienced anything similar or it was just my table.
But I did not look at it as unfair because the rules were explicit from the start so we go into these tourneys with eyes wide open. Grant it I did not put money up for this. And I would not purchase a ticket to an event like this due to the required bankroll needed for rebuys.
Live I will play $100 - $200 buyins at mohegun sun and foxwoods but the re-entry (not R/A) is only for a short time (forget the structure since I don't get to the casino often), and I do not mind it though I don't re-enter myself (yet anyway). I usually just sit at a cash game until I win my tourney loss back and then some or bust.
But the re-entry and R/A's do help the prize pool quite a bit when you only have 20-30 players so I don't mind it in these situations. Otherwise I just avoid them
Datdude1
Visionary
Bronze Level
Unlimited re-enter to tournaments are fine with me as long as they have entry fee it just makes the pots bigger but still I would have only a couple of hours before registration ends. Not a fan of the free entry to tournaments because it would make players play without the pressure of being knocked out.
georgi krastev
Legendary Donk-Fish
Bronze Level
I do not like tournaments of this type (they are boring). And now - unlimited re-entry...it seems to me that it will not end.
MatMackenz
Visionary
Silver Level
I do not agree with this form of tournament. I prefer to not rebuy and it is difficult sometimes to compete with players that rebuy multiple times. The rebuys only increase the prize pool, but not the amount of players that make it ITM, so it makes it more difficult to make the money when playing with lots of rebuy donkeys.
I do not mind a structure with a few rebuys, but when it is unlimited it becomes excessive. It is however easy to accumulate chips against certain players in this format if you can get it in good against these rebuyers.
I do not mind a structure with a few rebuys, but when it is unlimited it becomes excessive. It is however easy to accumulate chips against certain players in this format if you can get it in good against these rebuyers.
