jsnake716
Legend
Bronze Level
Well challenge over. Doug is up over 1,200,000 .I don't have totals, going to sleep !!!
GG to both
jsnake716
Legend
Bronze Level
The last session was pretty entertaining. Doug showed his hole cards. He was losing most of the session and blasted back near the end.
Doug turned out to be a gracious winner. Something we rarely see, (except for Phil G. of course). He did give Dannyboy credit for really spending time studying heads up format. The one thing that really bothered me coming from Dnegs was his insistence that it was Doug being "lucky" . If you listened to his post session interviews he really sounded emotional. Oh, except when he had that crushing session winning 350,000 , he did not mention luck once in that post interview . Ah well, it is over now.
Doug turned out to be a gracious winner. Something we rarely see, (except for Phil G. of course). He did give Dannyboy credit for really spending time studying heads up format. The one thing that really bothered me coming from Dnegs was his insistence that it was Doug being "lucky" . If you listened to his post session interviews he really sounded emotional. Oh, except when he had that crushing session winning 350,000 , he did not mention luck once in that post interview . Ah well, it is over now.
Rob Hobson
Legend
Loyaler
Updates from the latest session:
The End: Polk Backs the Truck Up One More Time, Finishes Challenge Up $1.2 Million
The End: Polk Backs the Truck Up One More Time, Finishes Challenge Up $1.2 Million
Collin Moshman
Poker Expert
Silver Level
Congrats to Doug with a solid win in this challenge!
I still find it surprising Negreanu accepted to play almost a month's worth of full-time online poker against an online heads-up pro. At best he has a very slight edge and it takes up a ton of his time. At worst he's a significant underdog. Win or lose though, it was definitely brave of him not to back down from this challenge.
I still find it surprising Negreanu accepted to play almost a month's worth of full-time online poker against an online heads-up pro. At best he has a very slight edge and it takes up a ton of his time. At worst he's a significant underdog. Win or lose though, it was definitely brave of him not to back down from this challenge.
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GrannySmit77
Rock Star
Platinum Level
To be perfectly honest, win or lose, it made for a great poker content to watch. 2020 sucked for poker with wsop and most live events canceled. At least poker players had something to watch.
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DS3
Legend
Loyaler
However, in truth isn't it simply a case of Negreanu's ego getting the better of him? He's a compulsive attention seeker who is driven to stay relevant. Anyone who has followed him closely over the last few years could see for all his posturing as being the underdog, he felt sure he had he could compete.
Then you had the faintly absurd 'support' of friends, GG Poker and even PokerGo.
If you followed the last stream to conclusion, Negreanu got pasted but then spent the last 20 minutes or so interviewed by Jeff Platt and Brent Hanks in which Negreanu just whined about bad luck. Yes, he did have some poor days but it was 25,000 hands for heavens sake over close to 40 sessions.
The smoke Platt and Hanks were blowing up his rear end was comical - he just lost $1,2 million and yet the claim was his game had greatly improved. Alrighty then. We all know how popular Negreanu is and the loss is going to be spun endlessly, but anyone looking at this objectively knew it was a poor decision on Negreanu's part.
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Mahdi
Rock Star
Silver Level
Actually I strongly disagree with you
Few points to make
First, in all-in spots with cards to come Dnegs didn't win a single time with less than 43% equity(on 24k hands, didn't see last 1k hand, so can't say for them), which is absurd, it should never happen at such a distance.
Second. 1.2 million in your opinion big loss and shows how bad he is still playing, but if we look closer to this it's only 30 buy-ins, 15 of which were lost during first 6k hands, where he was playing really bad and still learing, so it left for lose only 15 buy-ins what isn't that much, it's basically just variance
So objectively it was a good in my opinion.
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Lieutenant_OH7
Rock Star
Silver Level
I didn't think Dnegs would do this bad, well relatively speaking cuz Doug is specialized in hu. But this really been a waiste of money for him, imagine 1.25mil that is like 125buyins to 10k$ tournaments 
I assume he could have at least won something more there lol. There are really better ways to get expierence rather than throwing ur cash out the window, he shoulve' stopped at 12.5k hands, it was clear there already that Doug was better and he wasn't gonna win..
I assume he could have at least won something more there lol. There are really better ways to get expierence rather than throwing ur cash out the window, he shoulve' stopped at 12.5k hands, it was clear there already that Doug was better and he wasn't gonna win..
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myquickwit
Rock Star
Silver Level
I lost respect for Daniel when he started tanking against Dougs limp strategy. Dnegs has always been my favorite player and it wasn't a good look for him in my opinion. I am a fan of Doug Polk as well but I was hoping for a closer match and was rooting for the underdog. The better player won. I hope Polk finds the love of the game again some time in the future and comes out of retirement. Love him or hate him he's good for the game.
Alizona
Visionary
Bronze Level
Wouldn't surprise me if Cary Katz or GG covered the entire loss for him. LOL
I've never signed up for PokerGO and I never will, it was a BS move IMO when they stole the WSOP live streams and started making people pay for them. No thanks Cary. I'm not covering your buy-ins.
I've never signed up for PokerGO and I never will, it was a BS move IMO when they stole the WSOP live streams and started making people pay for them. No thanks Cary. I'm not covering your buy-ins.
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DS3
Legend
Loyaler
Good for you. I am glad so many Negreanu fans look at this as a positive, that losing $1.2 million was good in your opinion!
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DS3
Legend
Loyaler
I didn't think Dnegs would do this bad, well relatively speaking cuz Doug is specialized in hu. But this really been a waiste of money for him, imagine 1.25mil that is like 125buyins to 10k$ tournaments
Exactly - as I said in my post this will be spun to death as everything is with Negreanu but as you note for some equivalence...125 buy-ins of 10K tournaments.
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DS3
Legend
Loyaler
Absolutely - I have made my opinions well known regarding PokerGo and their agreement with the WSOP that allowed PokerGo to put it all behind a paywall. So much for growing the game.
Funny you mention this because for those who bothered to listen to the DAT podcast this week will have heard a question from a listener regrading this matter (WSOP behind the PokerGo paywall) which he concluded was bad for poker.
Big surprise, Negreanu defended PokerGO. Then worse still, as there now appears to be some incestuous relationship between GG, PokerGo and therefore DAT podcast (Negreanu being the common denominator) Terrance Chan (one co-host) also argued on PokerGo's behalf. Expected from Negreanu but I was really disappointed with Terrance Chan.
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DavPerz
Rock Star
Silver Level
Let's be honest, Negraneau may have lost over a million dollars, but in such a bad year for poker, the exposure he got from this is worth much more. They both won just by staying relevant for another year. Guaranteed there are more people who know Doug Polk just because of this event.
Alizona
Visionary
Bronze Level
Great post, you get it, my friend.
Yeah I am familiar with Terrence Chan, altho the name of the poker site he was running escapes me at the moment... I played on that site for a while, but then Terrence left and the site basically just disappeared... how interesting to see him return with the GG and PokerGO crowd... thanks for that little tidbit. I have nothing against Terrence and I'm not even implying he did anything wrong on that forgotten poker site (I didn't lose any money, I only play freerolls and try to make a bankroll from those which means if I lose whatever money is in the account, well it was never my money anyway Your words and this whole idea that "they buried the hatchet at the end of the match", it just makes me believe the entire thing was a set-up from the start. I'm not saying there was cheating or collusion, let me be perfectly clear!! After the Mike Postel incident, they'd have to be utterly stupid to try such a thing. The poker was 100% guaranteed real poker... I'd bet my own money on that... but if they were reimbursed under the table for any losses incurred... then the whole "we're still good friends" part is what is fake here. And I suspect that to be the case, altho once again, this is only my opinion without any proof. I work off circumstantial evidence all the time in our world, it's all I usually have to go on.
Edit: It was difficult to find, but an old poker news article from November 2014 said "Terrence Chan served as Director of Player Operations for Ultimate Poker and Ultimate Casino from March 2013 to July 2014" Note, this is not the same site as "Ultimate
Bet", it was totally different ownership and wasn't around for very long.
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