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One thing I tell you, don't try to bluff in Cardschat freerolls, if villain hits or has any pair, or that his hand can improve after the flop, he will definitely call until the end.🤪😁
Freeroll is completely the same as other paid tournaments, what leads you to succeed in any bluff is not the type of tournament, but the story you are telling inducing your villain to believe, always in a bluff you will have to have a very well planned and told that has logic because otherwise it is obvious that you will not succeed in any bluff, I, for example, succeed in the vast majority of my bluffs, study and dedication can be an alternative to success.

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I sometimes try to bluff not very skillfully but successfully! I bluff only when I have been playing at the table for a long time and I see what kind of game the opponents have
 
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Today, I want to open a thrilling discussion about one of the most intriguing elements of our beloved game: bluffing. Bluffing, or "faroleo" in Spanish, is a powerful tool that allows us to deceive our opponents and win hands even when our cards are not the best. But when should we risk it, and when is it better to avoid it?

Bluffing can be a double-edged sword. A well-executed bluff can lead us to victory, destabilizing our opponents and forcing them to fold. However, a poorly planned bluff can result in a loss of chips and damage our reputation at the table. That's why it's vital to understand when and how to use this strategy.

I would like to invite all of you to share your bluffing experiences and strategies in this forum. Have you ever pulled off an epic bluff that led you to a surprising victory? Do you have any advice for recognizing your opponents' bluffs? Or perhaps you have a funny anecdote related to bluffing in poker?
The bluff is one of the best weapons for me of course that poorly executed leads to ruin, it is a matter of analyzing the table and the players, not everyone or at all times can make a bluff and that is the magic, look for the moment suitable and the correct player, if you play for bounty I do not recommend bluffing unless you are very sure that your opponent has not connected game and neither go against chipleader
 
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Bluffing can work on the bubble but be aware it can also cost your chips and reputation. I would bluff on the bubble when my hand can improve. Also where going all in is the only option for your opponent. They will likely only do it if they are ahead.
 
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The bluff is very necessary so that your game is not predictable. You can also play a lot with it by deciphering how the players are playing at the table. The main thing is to be clear about the game that the others are developing so that you can take control and have Confidence that your bluff is going to have a high percentage of success
 
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bluffing is part of poker but for it to be successful most of the time, you have to have a good understanding of the game and a good reading of your opponents, regardless of the buy in you are paying, having a good reading you will be able to bluff a lot hands
 
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I like to bluff in poker games, sometimes I do it too much, I have noticed that I bluff so I lack patience, bluffing should have normal limits, like salt on food
 
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I like to bluff in poker games, sometimes I do it too much, I have noticed that I bluff so I lack patience, bluffing should have normal limits, like salt on food
Good metaphor, a pinch of salt is always necessary. Greetings!
 
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Bluffing is a very dangerous thing, and it is very important to use it correctly
 
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Bluffing is a very dangerous thing, and it is very important to use it correctly
Of course, it's a good strategy if you know how to do it. Greetings and thank you for the comment.
 
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Hi everyone! I agree with the opinion of many who have expressed the opinion that bluffing in a freeroll is: either useless, because your hand will not be analyzed, but simply called off; or simply thrown off (which is also not bad). But a more productive move is a semi-bluff, after all, you have a hand and you have the opportunity to improve it. Of course, I've tried both and I'll say this: semi-bluff is better, but training is needed so that you don't feel sad later. Bluffing is an integral part of poker!
 
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I agree with what you wrote. The ability to bluff is a very powerful weapon for any poker player. Most of the time I bluff when I'm in position and when I have a big stack. In order to win pots with bluffs, I need to know how my opponents play, tight or loose, aggressive or passive. And of course, I need to be very careful about how the hand goes, what bets were made before the flop, who raised, or vice versa, all the players just called the big blind. I think a good poker player should understand and feel when it's okay to bluff and when it's better not to.
 
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Once I was playing in a senior tournament and the man to my right always assumed that his opponents had whatever hand best connected with the board. Whenever a scare card came up (another suited card to make a flush, a pair on the board, the card that made a straight, etc.), and if I was in the hand with him, I would always bet it and he would always fold saying, you got the flush, didn't you? or you hit another 5, right? I would always say, "yep, how did you know?" and take his chips. It was a fun tournament for me!
 
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My bluffs do quite well in CC freerolls because many opponents read me as very conservative .It doesnt seem to work on ACR where almost everyone is an unknown , and on Everygame where most of the regulars dont seem to care much about their results .
 
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Hi everyone! I agree with the opinion of many who have expressed the opinion that bluffing in a freeroll is: either useless, because your hand will not be analyzed, but simply called off; or simply thrown off (which is also not bad). But a more productive move is a semi-bluff, after all, you have a hand and you have the opportunity to improve it. Of course, I've tried both and I'll say this: semi-bluff is better, but training is needed so that you don't feel sad later. Bluffing is an integral part of poker!
I agree with what you're saying, thank you for your comment. It's important to develop bluffing as part of the playing strategy, and also consider the type of game and the stage of the game when deciding to use it.
I never Bluff. LOL:poop:
Good for you.
I agree with what you wrote. The ability to bluff is a very powerful weapon for any poker player. Most of the time I bluff when I'm in position and when I have a big stack. In order to win pots with bluffs, I need to know how my opponents play, tight or loose, aggressive or passive. And of course, I need to be very careful about how the hand goes, what bets were made before the flop, who raised, or vice versa, all the players just called the big blind. I think a good poker player should understand and feel when it's okay to bluff and when it's better not to.
It's a safe way to make a bluff, I agree with what you're saying. Regards.
You have to "feel" the game, but don't try to bluff in freerolls kkk
You might be right, thanks for the advice.
Once I was playing in a senior tournament and the man to my right always assumed that his opponents had whatever hand best connected with the board. Whenever a scare card came up (another suited card to make a flush, a pair on the board, the card that made a straight, etc.), and if I was in the hand with him, I would always bet it and he would always fold saying, you got the flush, didn't you? or you hit another 5, right? I would always say, "yep, how did you know?" and take his chips. It was a fun tournament for me!
Interesting story, it's important to study the players, and what you've shared is a great example of that. Thanks for your contribution.
My bluffs do quite well in CC freerolls because many opponents read me as very conservative .It doesnt seem to work on ACR where almost everyone is an unknown , and on Everygame where most of the regulars dont seem to care much about their results .
It's possible; factors such as the prize pool, the game format, and, in the case of tournaments the duration, can make some players not care as much.
 
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There is a correct bluff frequency, as you can read about in Sklansky's "The Theory of Poker".
Yes, there is and sometimes that correct bluff frequency is 0%. The micro stakes players I'd consider bluffing are few and far between.

I had (AT-o) in a middle position and opened for a game standard 3XBB. The target, Peggy Sue (not his real name) called behind and we went head-up to a (Kc, 7c, 5) flop. I lead off with a routine ½ pot continuation bet (c-bet) and he called. After he called, I had to think about how to win this one. I had the Ac, and since the Kc was on board, the best flush draw he could have would be: (QcJc) or (QcTc). Would he call with that pre? Possibly since he’d know I didn’t necessarily have to have a really strong hand, given my position. Would he call that flop to draw to such a hand? That’s highly unlikely, as he couldn’t eliminate suited aces from my possible openers. Peggy would know he could easily be facing a triple threat: that he was up against a pair of kings already, that an ace might roll off that could pair me, or that he could be drawing to a second best flush. Peggy isn’t a typical rec-fish, and he would recognize just how risky this situation is.

As to what he had, I put him on a weakish king up to and including (KQ) or a possible high under pair like jacks, tens, or possibly nines. He could also play (AQ) (AJ) that way, and those hands beat me, or an unlikely (AT) for the tie. A set of sevens or fives are also not outside the realm of possibilities here. These hands make sense, given the cold call pre, and the flop call of what he would recognize as a routine c-bet. If he had (AK) or pocket queens, he’d’ve reraised pre. He could have been getting tricky with pocket aces, but if he had that hand, he would raise that flop, given the two-flush, and that he couldn’t have the Ac, that a third club would kill his action, and that it looks like a safe flop for top pair, top kicker (TPTK) to play strongly.

Fourth St. brings a complete brick that couldn’t possibly help either of our hands, so I lead out for another ½ pot sized bet. He called again. Now, I’m pretty certain that I can eliminate all the aces from his range, as those hands missed completely, and this pot is getting expensive. The river brings the club I’ve been looking for, and here I push it all-in. He has me covered, but not by much, so it’s now a stack decision. He thinks about it, the timer runs out, and the 30 second timer starts. He lets it run out to auto fold. That he took that long to fold pretty much confirms he had (KQ) and flopped a pretty good king or he had a set.

This is not the play I’d ever consider against a rec-fish. Give the rec-fish a (KQ) in this situation and there is no question: he’ll insta-call all the way to the river without a thought because… Kings! This bluff worked only because my opponent was a thinking player who was capable of thinking about more than his cards. He was also thinking about my range and how his range stacked up. It also worked because I was telling him a consistent story: that I raised pre with the Ac, and some other combination that included clubs, as this makes sense, given the way I play and my position. He would also know that a c-bet was a routine play that didn’t necessarily mean I had TPTK, therefore, his call. The 4th St follow-up bet is also consistent with a nut flush draw on a board that missed a lot of a middle position cold calling range, and since I knew where the nuts were, he could put me on that draw. The river shove was just a bit over a pot-sized bet, and also consistent with a flush draw that hit on the end. He was left with a pure guess: did I, or did I not, have it? That he let the hand time out demonstrates that he was giving the hero call serious consideration.

Here is another example: open from MP with red sevens. WolfSong (not his real handle) 3-bets out of the big blind. Usually, I'd give the fold serious consideration: what else can a rec-fish have in this situation other than a big pair in the hole? However, this is WolfSong -- a thinking player. He knows that a middle position opening range has a lot more than just Premiums. He wouldn’t need just big pairs and Premiums to take a chance with a three bet as a resteal defense. He isn't just thinking about what he has, but also what I might have. I know more about his range than he knows about mine – another reason why playing up front is so disadvantageous. I call the 3-bet, as we're effectively 100BB deep. The flop comes down (Ad, 9d, 6d). I estimate his three betting range from that position as:

JJ+
AK
AQ-s

WolfSong could also play middle suited connectors and single gappers like (T8-s) (J9-s) to balance the value portion of his three betting, big blind range.

Since the Ace of Trump is on board, all the diamonds have departed from his range. Even though (Kd,Qd) would give him the nut flush, he would probably flat that hand out of position. He bets out for ½ pot, totally standard. A pair of sevens isn't likely to be any good all by themselves, so I need to figure how to win this one. The flush draw, even though it's just seven-high, is likely to be good here, unless he has an "accidental" flush draw with a suited king or queen to go along with a likely high pair in the hole. The pocket sevens also give me a backdoor straight draw, and a third seven on the board is very likely to be good. I call.

The Turn brings a black five, improving the straight draw, and I can still hit a diamond that's likely to be good, and also hit the gutter on the river. He leads 2/3rds pot: I call.

The river brings a complete blank. He checks after leading twice. I'm pretty sure that checking back isn't going to win. I elect to shove into him, putting him to a stack decision. This line could mean several things: a TPTK, aces over, or a flopped set that was waiting to see if any more diamonds rolled off before dropping the hammer, a made flush slow played for the river trap, or a possible desperation bluff with a missed nut flush draw. The latter would be bad, and many a fish would glom onto that as an excuse to call.

WolfSong isn't simply playing his cards, he's also playing mine. He can't eliminate any diamonds from my range as (Kd,Td+) (Qd,Td+) and suited connectors are all in my MP opening range. The bet/call, bet/call line keeps that range wide open, as he can't eliminate hands from a range that he has less information about than I do. He tanks for about five seconds and folds. That pretty much confirms pocket kings or queens without a diamond. If he had (A,K) he could still fold, but as he would have TP, it would be a much closer decision on his part. The only other risk is that WolfSong takes it to the next level, and recognizes that my knowing his range, and his knowing that I know he knows this, means that he knows that I know that I could be bluffing. However, if WolfSong has one weakness it’s that he isn’t as observant as he should be, and that he wasn’t paying enough attention to understand that I can level. He can be forgiven as it’s highly uncommon to see leveling wars break out at 10NL.
 
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One thing I tell you, don't try to bluff in Cardschat freerolls, if villain hits or has any pair, or that his hand can improve after the flop, he will definitely call until the end.🤪😁
I agree regarding freerolls. To bluff you first need an opponent who will "read" your hand the way you intend to. Otherwise, you cannot intimidate that person.
Freerolls are maddening in terms of people not giving up not matter what
 
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Well it’s like breathing for me … bluff until I make it … aggressiveness with no limit
 
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Yes, there is and sometimes that correct bluff frequency is 0%. The micro stakes players I'd consider bluffing are few and far between.

I had (AT-o) in a middle position and opened for a game standard 3XBB. The target, Peggy Sue (not his real name) called behind and we went head-up to a (Kc, 7c, 5) flop. I lead off with a routine ½ pot continuation bet (c-bet) and he called. After he called, I had to think about how to win this one. I had the Ac, and since the Kc was on board, the best flush draw he could have would be: (QcJc) or (QcTc). Would he call with that pre? Possibly since he’d know I didn’t necessarily have to have a really strong hand, given my position. Would he call that flop to draw to such a hand? That’s highly unlikely, as he couldn’t eliminate suited aces from my possible openers. Peggy would know he could easily be facing a triple threat: that he was up against a pair of kings already, that an ace might roll off that could pair me, or that he could be drawing to a second best flush. Peggy isn’t a typical rec-fish, and he would recognize just how risky this situation is.

As to what he had, I put him on a weakish king up to and including (KQ) or a possible high under pair like jacks, tens, or possibly nines. He could also play (AQ) (AJ) that way, and those hands beat me, or an unlikely (AT) for the tie. A set of sevens or fives are also not outside the realm of possibilities here. These hands make sense, given the cold call pre, and the flop call of what he would recognize as a routine c-bet. If he had (AK) or pocket queens, he’d’ve reraised pre. He could have been getting tricky with pocket aces, but if he had that hand, he would raise that flop, given the two-flush, and that he couldn’t have the Ac, that a third club would kill his action, and that it looks like a safe flop for top pair, top kicker (TPTK) to play strongly.

Fourth St. brings a complete brick that couldn’t possibly help either of our hands, so I lead out for another ½ pot sized bet. He called again. Now, I’m pretty certain that I can eliminate all the aces from his range, as those hands missed completely, and this pot is getting expensive. The river brings the club I’ve been looking for, and here I push it all-in. He has me covered, but not by much, so it’s now a stack decision. He thinks about it, the timer runs out, and the 30 second timer starts. He lets it run out to auto fold. That he took that long to fold pretty much confirms he had (KQ) and flopped a pretty good king or he had a set.

This is not the play I’d ever consider against a rec-fish. Give the rec-fish a (KQ) in this situation and there is no question: he’ll insta-call all the way to the river without a thought because… Kings! This bluff worked only because my opponent was a thinking player who was capable of thinking about more than his cards. He was also thinking about my range and how his range stacked up. It also worked because I was telling him a consistent story: that I raised pre with the Ac, and some other combination that included clubs, as this makes sense, given the way I play and my position. He would also know that a c-bet was a routine play that didn’t necessarily mean I had TPTK, therefore, his call. The 4th St follow-up bet is also consistent with a nut flush draw on a board that missed a lot of a middle position cold calling range, and since I knew where the nuts were, he could put me on that draw. The river shove was just a bit over a pot-sized bet, and also consistent with a flush draw that hit on the end. He was left with a pure guess: did I, or did I not, have it? That he let the hand time out demonstrates that he was giving the hero call serious consideration.

Here is another example: open from MP with red sevens. WolfSong (not his real handle) 3-bets out of the big blind. Usually, I'd give the fold serious consideration: what else can a rec-fish have in this situation other than a big pair in the hole? However, this is WolfSong -- a thinking player. He knows that a middle position opening range has a lot more than just Premiums. He wouldn’t need just big pairs and Premiums to take a chance with a three bet as a resteal defense. He isn't just thinking about what he has, but also what I might have. I know more about his range than he knows about mine – another reason why playing up front is so disadvantageous. I call the 3-bet, as we're effectively 100BB deep. The flop comes down (Ad, 9d, 6d). I estimate his three betting range from that position as:

JJ+
AK
AQ-s

WolfSong could also play middle suited connectors and single gappers like (T8-s) (J9-s) to balance the value portion of his three betting, big blind range.

Since the Ace of Trump is on board, all the diamonds have departed from his range. Even though (Kd,Qd) would give him the nut flush, he would probably flat that hand out of position. He bets out for ½ pot, totally standard. A pair of sevens isn't likely to be any good all by themselves, so I need to figure how to win this one. The flush draw, even though it's just seven-high, is likely to be good here, unless he has an "accidental" flush draw with a suited king or queen to go along with a likely high pair in the hole. The pocket sevens also give me a backdoor straight draw, and a third seven on the board is very likely to be good. I call.

The Turn brings a black five, improving the straight draw, and I can still hit a diamond that's likely to be good, and also hit the gutter on the river. He leads 2/3rds pot: I call.

The river brings a complete blank. He checks after leading twice. I'm pretty sure that checking back isn't going to win. I elect to shove into him, putting him to a stack decision. This line could mean several things: a TPTK, aces over, or a flopped set that was waiting to see if any more diamonds rolled off before dropping the hammer, a made flush slow played for the river trap, or a possible desperation bluff with a missed nut flush draw. The latter would be bad, and many a fish would glom onto that as an excuse to call.

WolfSong isn't simply playing his cards, he's also playing mine. He can't eliminate any diamonds from my range as (Kd,Td+) (Qd,Td+) and suited connectors are all in my MP opening range. The bet/call, bet/call line keeps that range wide open, as he can't eliminate hands from a range that he has less information about than I do. He tanks for about five seconds and folds. That pretty much confirms pocket kings or queens without a diamond. If he had (A,K) he could still fold, but as he would have TP, it would be a much closer decision on his part. The only other risk is that WolfSong takes it to the next level, and recognizes that my knowing his range, and his knowing that I know he knows this, means that he knows that I know that I could be bluffing. However, if WolfSong has one weakness it’s that he isn’t as observant as he should be, and that he wasn’t paying enough attention to understand that I can level. He can be forgiven as it’s highly uncommon to see leveling wars break out at 10NL.
Nicely explained, a bit lengthy but it's clear, haha.
Freerolls are maddening in terms of people not giving up not matter what
Sounds a bit frustrating, I think nobody wants to give up.
Well it’s like breathing for me … bluff until I make it … aggressiveness with no limit
I love that attitude, but I prefer a more conservative approach.
 
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I never bluff at freerolls. Cash games or mid stakes MTT mostly from the button and generally pre flop. I have pulled off a few killers but they are rare. Almost never live as I shake too much!
 
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