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I would love to follow you and see what it would help to give, it certainly goes a lot to the community. If you share it on youtube, leave the link here for us to follow so we can see it closer. I found your idea very interesting!

because it is but the initial idea has changed a little but in the same line. it is impossible to record everything in videos for storage reasons
 
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Well my friends, I still haven't managed to finish the correction of the first month but it's not long, the second month is complete. But also as I'm not made of iron I need to relax and play a little, tomorrow I'll post the two full months!
 
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I look forward to see what you come up with. I did something similar a long time ago and wonder if your results and thoughts will be similar to mine. I do at times check out statistics on my game just to see how things are going when I am hot or in a rut. Always interesting to see.

Good luck to you.
 
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Take a look at the Luvepoker model.

Take a look at the Luvepoker model. See if you like it and further back there is an example but the structural part of the first example was wrong I'm working on it.
just so as not to detract from the topic and who is interested in seeing the ral subject of the topic. tomorrow I will post updates with more data

Hands will be selected by the following criteria:

1* Hands with no losses or gains
2 * Hands won without show dawn
3* Lost hands without showdawn:
4 * Hands won at the show dawn
5* Lost Hands at the show dawn
6* Hands that were ahead and equity held
7* Hands that was behind and equity held
8* Hands that was in front and lost
9 * Hands that was behind and won
10*Total flips played
11* flip coin situations I missed
12*Flip Coin Situations I've Won
13*Tie or split equity hands

*Considering from 56% to 99% as hands I was in front, thus doing after large sampling the average margin of the % I was ahead. Applying the same formula for inverse situations. That is: hands that I was behind with the inverse parameter that I would have 44% or less of chances.

*Flip situations will be considered between 45% to 55% for both parties, also making a final average just to ensure that this item is in the 50/50 margin in a large sample. (Note some hands that are genuine flips show an oscillation in the hud between 56% and 55% of equity or between 44% and 45% but they will be calculated correctly with detail and screenshots proving except cases of flip coin that block like TT vs AKo for example, but in this case the equity exceeds the threshold of even 56%)

*I will take screenshots of all situations in the hud except for items 1;2;3;4;5 because there is not much need. However, the database will always be available for the purpose of authenticity of the study, free from trends or deviations.


* Total hands won in show dawn item 4 include tie hands that appear as wins on the HUD and also split equity hands such as 33/33/33/3-handed or 25/25/25/25/4-handed for example. therefore, there may be a discrepancy in the sum of items 6;7;8;9;10 , not matching the total number of hands involving show dawn , so we will use the total sum or crossing of such items among themselves to determine the comparative parameter.

*The most relevant items for research on equity are items: 6;7;8;9;10;11;12;13. Therefore, items: 1;2;3;4;5 will be for personal use or only for purposes of evidence or later use if necessary comparisons.

*New parameters and criteria may be added according to the need of the study, in order to determine and collect data with greater precision and detail, thus being able to add new criteria during the course of the study.

*Flip coins are easier and can be compared with each other in a large sample, having to be as close to 50/50 or the final calculated average.

*The sum of hands without losses and gains + hands won without show dawn + hands lost without show dawn + hands won at show dawn + hands lost at show dawn is = the total number of hands. (for mathematical authenticity purposes) real proof

*The sum of items 4 and 5 minus items 6;7;8;9;10 is equal to item 13.

*The sum of items 4 and 5 minus Item 13 minus item 10 is equal to the comparison ceiling for items 6;7;8;9 or , the sum of items 6;7;8;9 is equal to the ceiling of comparison of the isolated mesos.

*The sum of items *4 and *5 is the total margin of hands for the show dawn, ie 100%. Where inside are all the situations of items 6;7;8;9;10 serving as a ceiling for proportional comparison of the same.


*The sum of items 6;7 is equal to the total number of hands that equity held. as it should.

*The sum of items 8;9 is equal to the total number of hands that equity was reversed.

*The sum of items 6 and 9 is equal to 100% of the showdans I won (except the flip coins which have to be calculated separately).

*The sum of items 7 and 8 is equal to the show dawns I lost (except the flip coins which have to be calculated separately).

*It is possible to add the number of chips involved in items 8;9, thus being able to describe the amount of chips lost and won in each situation (how much we lose when we are ahead and equity is reversed and how much we gain when we are behind and equity is reversed.

*The street to street equity will also be determined later separately using the same parameters.
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this is the second month I'm correcting the first

I look forward to see what you come up with. I did something similar a long time ago and wonder if your results and thoughts will be similar to mine. I do at times check out statistics on my game just to see how things are going when I am hot or in a rut. Always interesting to see.

Good luck to you.




of course I'm just starting out but it's exciting I love math and it seems very efficient:)


you have already done this, so could you help me with a question, of course I calculate the average equity by adding all of them and dividing by the number of hands, but I would like to know if I will have to calculate all equities later separately to have the total average or can I do it the average of the averages?

Of course I'll test it both ways but it would save me time.



Months 02/06/2020 to 01/07/2020

*Total hands played: 2598
*Hands without loss or gain: 1744
*Wind hands without show dawn: 363
*Lost hands without showdawn: 147
*Hands won at show dawn: 128
*Lost hands at the show dawn : 216

* Hands that were ahead and equity held: 42
(average of favoritism 68.90%)
(42 is = 20.49% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(42 is = 33.6% of equity hands held as it should)
(42 is = 51.85% of hands I won at show dawn)

* Hands that was behind and equity held: 83
(average of favoritism 29.01%)
(83 is = 40.49% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(83 is = 66.4% of equity hands held as it should)
(83 is = 66.94% of the hands I lost at show dawn)

* Hands that was in front and lost : 41
(average of favoritism 63.39%)
(41= 20% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(41= 51.25% of the total hands that equity was reversed)
(41= 33.06% of hands I lost excluding flipscoins and ties)

* Hands that was behind and won: 39
(average of favoritism 31.71%)
(39= 19.02% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(39= 48.75% of the total hands that equity was reversed)
(39= 48.15% of hands I won except flipscoins and ties


*Total flips played: 47 (average equity 50.12%)

* lost flip coin situations: 27
(average equity 50.40%)
(accomplished 57.45%)

*flip coin situations I won: 20
(average equity 49.7%)
(accomplished 42.55%)

* hands of tie or split equity: 92
 
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Take a look at the Luvepoker model. See if you like it and further back there is an example but the structural part of the first example was wrong I'm working on it.


Hey Mate,

will respond in more detail tomorrow. I want to really look through this for a good response. I have tried looking for what I originally did but it was a few computers and many years ago so I think its gone.

On the equity's question yes that would be the best correct way to do it. I dont know if its really worth doing it that way. I explain what I did and do for reviews tomorrow. When I review today I dont go as deep into the statistics but use them to see if its bad luck or bad play over a small range.
 
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Hey Mate,

will respond in more detail tomorrow. I want to really look through this for a good response. I have tried looking for what I originally did but it was a few computers and many years ago so I think its gone.

On the equity's question yes that would be the best correct way to do it. I dont know if its really worth doing it that way. I explain what I did and do for reviews tomorrow. When I review today I dont go as deep into the statistics but use them to see if its bad luck or bad play over a small range.



yea! thank you my dear! if you want you can also contact me privately or if you want my email send me a PV
 
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Look, you aroused a great curiosity in me. I would like all your development on this, because I think something very interesting has come out. The mentioned friends can use HM to better filter, but they won't know how to do it for a better view of the information. In any case, I'll be here following all this!
 
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Look, you aroused a great curiosity in me. I would like all your development on this, because I think something very interesting has come out. The mentioned friends can use HM to better filter, but they won't know how to do it for a better view of the information. In any case, I'll be here following all this!

I already use other software, even because I wouldn't be able to do it without one.:)
But Thanks!
 
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yea! thank you my dear! if you want you can also contact me privately or if you want my email send me a PV

OK today is not going to be a day to answer this. I officially cant find my original info so that out. I may do what you said and exchange emails later on but I will start out in the forums. I have decided to do this over a few post though. I want to do this in a way I dont push my final post out there that maybe disjointed and not 100%.

I did have 2 questions but you answered one in another response since my post of yesterday.

My question is this, Hands that were ahead and equity and other hands on equity, are you separating them out between situations? Are these all hands at each spot in the hand or just say once are all in. If all in would that include Pre, and post flop added in?

The reason I am asking is I want to have a better understanding of the stat and how your going about this?
 
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OK today is not going to be a day to answer this. I officially cant find my original info so that out. I may do what you said and exchange emails later on but I will start out in the forums. I have decided to do this over a few post though. I want to do this in a way I dont push my final post out there that maybe disjointed and not 100%.

I did have 2 questions but you answered one in another response since my post of yesterday.

My question is this, Hands that were ahead and equity and other hands on equity, are you separating them out between situations? Are these all hands at each spot in the hand or just say once are all in. If all in would that include Pre, and post flop added in?

The reason I am asking is I want to have a better understanding of the stat and how your going about this?

In these hands the equity is all calculated on the pre-flop equity of hands that reached show dawn. But I will do it for each street as well. calculating equity :)
 
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Hands from 05/05/2020 to 06/01/2020

Total hands played: 2128
*Hands without loss or gain: 1399
*Wind hands without show dawn: 318
*Lost hands without showdawn: 118
*Hands won at show dawn: 125
*Lost hands at show dawn : 168

* Hands that were ahead and equity held: 53
(average of favoritism 68.24%)
(53 is = 29.44% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(53 is = 43.09% of equity hands held as it should)
(53 is = 61.63% of the hands I won at show dawn)
chips won : 571,147

* Hands that was behind and equity held: 70
(average of favoritism 27.24%)
(70 is = 38.89% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(70 is = 56.91% of equity hands held as it should)
(70 is = 74.47% of hands I lost at show dawn)
Lost chips: 1,007,144

* Hands that was in front and lost : 24
(average of favoritism 63.20%)
(24 is = 13.33% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(24 is = 42.11% of the total hands that equity was reversed)
(24 is = 25.53% of hands I lost)
Lost chips: 382,270

* Hands that was behind and won: 33
(average of favoritism 29.39%)
(33 is = 18.33% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(33 is = 57.89% of the total hands that equity was reversed)
(33 is = 38.37% of hands I won)
Chips won: 843,222

*Total flips played: 31 (average equity 47.30%)

* lost flip coin situations: 18
(average equity 50.5%)
(accomplished 58.06%)
lost chips: 339,249

*flip coin situations I won: 13
(average equity 50.15%)
(accomplished 41.94%)
chips won : 176,693

* hands of tie or split equity: 82
 
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Maos mes 06/02/2020 á 07/01/2020

Total hands played: 2598
*Hands without loss or gain: 1744
*Wind hands without show dawn: 363
*Lost hands without showdawn: 147
*Hands won at show dawn: 128
*Lost hands at the show dawn : 216

* Hands that were ahead and equity held: 42
(average of favoritism 68.90%)
(42 is = 20.49% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(42 is = 33.6% of equity hands held as it should)
(42 is = 51.85% of hands I won at show dawn)
chips won: 116,913

* Hands that was behind and equity held: 83
(average of favoritism 29.01%)
(83 is = 40.49% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(83 is = 66.4% of equity hands held as it should)
(83 is = 66.94% of the hands I lost at show dawn)
lost chips : 460,338

* Hands that was in front and lost : 41
(average of favoritism 63.39%)
(41 is = 20% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(41 is = 51.25% of the total number of hands that equity was reversed)
(41 is = 33.06% of hands I lost)
lost chips: 175,836

* Hands that was behind and won: 39
(average of favoritism 31.71%)
(39 is = 19.02% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(39 is = 48.75% of the total number of hands that equity was reversed)
(39 is = 48.15% of the hands I won)
chips won: 199,720

*Total flips played: 47 (average equity 50.12%)

* lost flip coin situations: 27
(average equity 50.40%)
(accomplished 57.45%)
lost chips : 96,155

*flip coin situations I won: 20
(average equity 49.7%)
(accomplished 42.55%)
chips won : 84,474
* hands of tie or split equity: 92
 
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In these hands the equity is all calculated on the pre-flop equity of hands that reached show dawn. But I will do it for each street as well. calculating equity :)


OK this is good to know. while doing this post flop as well could be interesting I would not add the pre flop and post flop together and even separate the flop and turn information.

My reasoning is this, our action are affecting the play and probable results but also the way other people play could affect the results.
 
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Doubt

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OK this is good to know. while doing this post flop as well could be interesting I would not add the pre flop and post flop together and even separate the flop and turn information.

My reasoning is this, our action are affecting the play and probable results but also the way other people play could affect the results.



but the way the equity performs on each street is not affected by the actions is simply mathematical, so I chose to calculate it separately. Then just cross in all ways, and also together as you said.
And also the amount of chips lost or won already shows that the hand went to show dawn, I have captures of all spots with equity.:)
you want to see an example that doesn't affect very simple: it says the hands that I played badly that I was behind and in the end I won, modesty aside the model was very good! and it will get better as the process progresses
 
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at first I will not disclose the rooms , my aim is not to harm anyone but to show that they are not dealing with addicted idiots who accept everything they want for a few crumbs . The prerogative of hearing , and of oversight , certainly makes things better . And also in a second hypothesis, the best one will make me prove to them that there really are no problems in the RNGs, thus increasing their trust between aspirants like me and some others.
Good idea, a lot of people have doubts about the authenticity of the RNGs, and if you manage to dispel the doubts of at least some of them, it will already be a good thing.
 
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Take poker as your life - where you also have to make right and difficult decisions and pay for your mistakes, since time cannot be turned back, and take life as a game where concentration, mind, and desire to learn are needed
 
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Take poker as your life - where you also have to make right and difficult decisions and pay for your mistakes, since time cannot be turned back, and take life as a game where concentration, mind, and desire to learn are needed

Hi there, what do you mean by that?
 
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Total hands played: 2598
*Hands without loss or gain: 1744
*Wind hands without show dawn: 363
*Lost hands without showdawn: 147
*Hands won at show dawn: 128
*Lost hands at the show dawn : 216

* Hands that were ahead and equity held: 42
(average of favoritism 68.90%)
(42 is = 20.49% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(42 is = 33.6% of equity hands held as it should)
(42 is = 51.85% of hands I won at show dawn)
chips won: 116,913

* Hands that was behind and equity held: 83
(average of favoritism 29.01%)
(83 is = 40.49% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(83 is = 66.4% of equity hands held as it should)
(83 is = 66.94% of the hands I lost at show dawn)
lost chips : 460,338

* Hands that was in front and lost : 41
(average of favoritism 63.39%)
(41 is = 20% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(41 is = 51.25% of the total number of hands that equity was reversed)
(41 is = 33.06% of hands I lost)
lost chips: 175,836

* Hands that was behind and won: 39
(average of favoritism 31.71%)
(39 is = 19.02% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(39 is = 48.75% of the total number of hands that equity was reversed)
(39 is = 48.15% of the hands I won)
chips won: 199,720

*Total flips played: 47 (average equity 50.12%)

* lost flip coin situations: 27
(average equity 50.40%)
(accomplished 57.45%)
lost chips : 96,155

*flip coin situations I won: 20
(average equity 49.7%)
(accomplished 42.55%)
chips won : 84,474
* hands of tie or split equity: 92

Total hands played: 2128
*Hands without loss or gain: 1399
*Wind hands without show dawn: 318
*Lost hands without showdawn: 118
*Hands won at show dawn: 125
*Lost hands at show dawn : 168

* Hands that were ahead and equity held: 53
(average of favoritism 68.24%)
(53 is = 29.44% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(53 is = 43.09% of equity hands held as it should)
(53 is = 61.63% of the hands I won at show dawn)
chips won : 571,147

* Hands that was behind and equity held: 70
(average of favoritism 27.24%)
(70 is = 38.89% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(70 is = 56.91% of equity hands held as it should)
(70 is = 74.47% of hands I lost at show dawn)
Lost chips: 1,007,144

* Hands that was in front and lost : 24
(average of favoritism 63.20%)
(24 is = 13.33% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(24 is = 42.11% of the total hands that equity was reversed)
(24 is = 25.53% of hands I lost)
Lost chips: 382,270

* Hands that was behind and won: 33
(average of favoritism 29.39%)
(33 is = 18.33% of total showdawns played excluding flips and ties)
(33 is = 57.89% of the total hands that equity was reversed)
(33 is = 38.37% of hands I won)
Chips won: 843,222

*Total flips played: 31 (average equity 47.30%)

* lost flip coin situations: 18
(average equity 50.5%)
(accomplished 58.06%)
lost chips: 339,249

*flip coin situations I won: 13
(average equity 50.15%)
(accomplished 41.94%)
chips won : 176,693

* hands of tie or split equity: 82

just so as not to detract from the topic and who is interested in seeing the ral subject of the topic. tomorrow I will post updates with more data

Hands will be selected by the following criteria:

1* Hands with no losses or gains
2 * Hands won without show dawn
3* Lost hands without showdawn:
4 * Hands won at the show dawn
5* Lost Hands at the show dawn
6* Hands that were ahead and equity held
7* Hands that was behind and equity held
8* Hands that was in front and lost
9 * Hands that was behind and won
10*Total flips played
11* flip coin situations I missed
12*Flip Coin Situations I've Won
13*Tie or split equity hands

*Considering from 56% to 99% as hands I was in front, thus doing after large sampling the average margin of the % I was ahead. Applying the same formula for inverse situations. That is: hands that I was behind with the inverse parameter that I would have 44% or less of chances.

*Flip situations will be considered between 45% to 55% for both parties, also making a final average just to ensure that this item is in the 50/50 margin in a large sample. (Note some hands that are genuine flips show an oscillation in the hud between 56% and 55% of equity or between 44% and 45% but they will be calculated correctly with detail and screenshots proving except cases of flip coin that block like TT vs AKo for example, but in this case the equity exceeds the threshold of even 56%)

*I will take screenshots of all situations in the hud except for items 1;2;3;4;5 because there is not much need. However, the database will always be available for the purpose of authenticity of the study, free from trends or deviations.


* Total hands won in show dawn item 4 include tie hands that appear as wins on the HUD and also split equity hands such as 33/33/33/3-handed or 25/25/25/25/4-handed for example. therefore, there may be a discrepancy in the sum of items 6;7;8;9;10 , not matching the total number of hands involving show dawn , so we will use the total sum or crossing of such items among themselves to determine the comparative parameter.

*The most relevant items for research on equity are items: 6;7;8;9;10;11;12;13. Therefore, items: 1;2;3;4;5 will be for personal use or only for purposes of evidence or later use if necessary comparisons.

*New parameters and criteria may be added according to the need of the study, in order to determine and collect data with greater precision and detail, thus being able to add new criteria during the course of the study.

*Flip coins are easier and can be compared with each other in a large sample, having to be as close to 50/50 or the final calculated average.

*The sum of hands without losses and gains + hands won without show dawn + hands lost without show dawn + hands won at show dawn + hands lost at show dawn is = the total number of hands. (for mathematical authenticity purposes) real proof

*The sum of items 4 and 5 minus items 6;7;8;9;10 is equal to item 13.

*The sum of items 4 and 5 minus Item 13 minus item 10 is equal to the comparison ceiling for items 6;7;8;9 or , the sum of items 6;7;8;9 is equal to the ceiling of comparison of the isolated mesos.

*The sum of items *4 and *5 is the total margin of hands for the show dawn, ie 100%. Where inside are all the situations of items 6;7;8;9;10 serving as a ceiling for proportional comparison of the same.


*The sum of items 6;7 is equal to the total number of hands that equity held. as it should.

*The sum of items 8;9 is equal to the total number of hands that equity was reversed.

*The sum of items 6 and 9 is equal to 100% of the showdans I won (except the flip coins which have to be calculated separately).

*The sum of items 7 and 8 is equal to the show dawns I lost (except the flip coins which have to be calculated separately).

*It is possible to add the number of chips involved in items 8;9, thus being able to describe the amount of chips lost and won in each situation (how much we lose when we are ahead and equity is reversed and how much we gain when we are behind and equity is reversed.

*The street to street equity will also be determined later separately using the same parameters.
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Did you even read the study model and the first few months of statistics? I bookmarked it here so you don't bother scrolling up. Thank you for your reply and your interest.
 
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You spend too much time considering poker as a way to make money, and I'm talking about how to live in poker, enjoy the game regardless of whether you win or reproduce, play for fun, always positive thinking even, professionals are unlucky, but they don't break, work on their game and luck rewards them, be patient and thank you for being able to play poker

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