What Would You Do In This Situation?

[Poker_Mike]

At the final table of a daily holdem tournament the BB - not paying attention - folds out of turn.

Dealer pushes their cards back to them saying, "Not yet."

BB blushes and takes their cards back.

Folds to me in the SB and I have 93o and I raise to take the pot.

The table laughs including the dealer and yes the BB even has a smile.

What would you do in that situation?

 

[RENEY444]

You did the right thing , smart move .

 

[besttest11]

You played it smart by raising, taking advantage of the BB’s mistake while keeping the table’s mood light.

 

[SPANKYSN]

That was the correct play...as Vince Lombardi would say, "It's the ONLY play".

 

[dimon4ik89]

There is nothing unusual in this situation, it is a normal game moment. I think that most players in your place would have acted exactly as you did. Each player at the poker table has responsibilities, he must carefully follow the course of the game, and if he made a mistake somewhere, as in this situation, then it is only his fault, since he did not carefully follow the game. In this situation, you could ask the dealer why he returned the cards to the player that were discarded? In each poker club there are both general rules of the game, which are the same everywhere, and there are also internal rules that are individual in each club, and in this situation it was necessary to clarify what rules the dealer was guided by when he returned the player's cards.

 

[Poker_Mike]

In this situation, you could ask the dealer why he returned the cards to the player that were discarded?

I did not ask the dealer this question.

But I can guess that they would have told me that the cards did not touch the muck pile and so they were just on the table.

Frankly I was ok with this because the BB already demonstrated their action. By the way - acting out of turn would earn the player a penalty in a wsop event.

There are many more possible outcomes and situations in live poker that do not occur in online poker.

 

[enno]

You did the right thing - being an ex- dealer there are many odd situations that can arise in real games that do not occur in on-line poker.
It is the player's responsibility to follow the game action in order to avoid such situations, but occasionally the dealer can be at fault.

 

[Artbart805]

 

[martDdart]

Exactly what you did,great play!

 

[Poker Orifice]

It depends...
Was she hot? If so, fold and tell her you had Aces but felt bad for her.

Was it a real jerk? Raise & show the 93o

 

[Poker_Mike]

fold and tell her you had Aces but felt bad for her.

No way! I was a middle stack and didn't really "need" the 1.5BB (no antes) in the pot. She was short already.

But it's times like that at the final table that I am thinking about "denying" my opponents chips who really do need them.

Was it a real jerk? Raise & show the 93o

Ha ha - the "jerk" was on the button.

Another regular....it took me a couple of orbits to realize he was trying to insult me personally to tilt me into making a big mistake - especially out of position!

I asked him who he was talking about when he said there were bad players to his left....he said, "You!" LOL

The button became more and more nervous as he saw I was comfortable and unshakable ..lol

Anyways - I think that answered your questions.

 

[EarnDAStack]

BB's hand is dead,

You shouldn't have had to risk chips to take the pot down.

If your local casino makes a habit out of allowing people to play out of turn without recourse you should adapt your strategy to the house rules and fold out of turn with strong and nutted hands to increase the action ahead of you and make your 3-Bets significantly more profitable

Hope this helps!

GL

EDS

 

[enno]

Knowing that we are discussing live games, I would like to mention a similar situation in on-line poker.
That being when the BB is sitting out, everyone folds to you in the SB and you call or raise in order to steal his blind. All of a sudden you see he has returned to play and puts in a raise. In my opinion a player who sits out at the beginning of a hand should be an automatic fold. At least in live games, you can visually see if a player is away from the table.

 

[makudonarudo]

it could've been an angle. I've seen stuff like that all the time

 

[Poker_Mike]

You shouldn't have had to risk chips to take the pot down.

If your local casino makes a habit out of allowing people to play out of turn without recourse you should adapt your strategy to the house rules and fold out of turn with strong and nutted hands to increase the action ahead of you and make your 3-Bets significantly more profitable

I appreciate your perspective on this and your strict interpretation.

And I also like your idea to take advantage of this "soft rule" or non-adherence to the rules.

Once the BB made their mistake - I wasn't trying to get cute with my play because I fully expected a player to take advantage of the BB's mistake and I had to be somewhat careful if I was going to play OOP from the SB. I was very surprised when the button (super LAG) folded in this situation leaving the blinds to battle it out.

All of a sudden you see he has returned to play and puts in a raise. In my opinion a player who sits out at the beginning of a hand should be an automatic fold.

Thank you for this. I had not considered how this can also happen online. I approve of your recommendation.

it could've been an angle. I've seen stuff like that all the time

Yes but now we know it was not an angle. And also the BB actually blushed - which is typically an involuntary response.

 

[hajaehyun]

I thought it was an appropriate play, but if you're a BB with no manners, you might be in a bit embarrassed.

 

[UclaTico]

En la mesa final de un torneo Daily Hold'em, el BB, sin prestar atención, se retira fuera de turno.

El crupier les devuelve las cartas y les dice: "Todavía no".

BB se sonroja y recupera sus cartas.

Me dejan en el SB y tengo 93o y subo para llevarme el bote.

La mesa se ríe, incluido el crupier, y sí, el BB incluso tiene una sonrisa.

¿Qué harías en esa situación?

Faced with the situation, you made a good move, but I think you should share more information about the stacks of both of them, since it could even be a bit of a risky move because he might think that because of his behavior you are deceiving him.

 

[Poker_Mike]

Faced with the situation, you made a good move, but I think you should share more information about the stacks of both of them, since it could even be a bit of a risky move because he might think that because of his behavior you are deceiving him.

This is a valid point.

I was a middle stack and the BB was short.

But more importantly the BB had a reputation as a tight player and was playing as if their cards were showing.

 

[havingfun]

I think you played the situation. The BB had the responsibility to follow the action and didn't.
He probably learner something out of it. So that's good.

 

[hajaehyun]

You said you did what you had to do