Will you ever fold AA or KK facing all in?

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If your answer is NO please explain why.

If your answer is yes also, also please explain why and in what condition.
 
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Based on my position in the tourney.

NO - if my position is in top 70% of the active players
YES - if my position is in last 30% of the active players in the tourney
 
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The only way to get an AA is from a satellite where no matter what position you are in, the prizes will be the same, so if I have enough chips there is no need to risk it.
On the other hand, the KK can be shot in other situations
instance
The utg: up to 3 bb
utg+1: go up to 6bb
CO: I make a call
I go up to 12 bb
utg: I go up to 25bb
CO: all in game
This is most likely AA, so it's best to fold. Obviously it depends on the tournament and the player in front of you.
 
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It’s usually a race for me to see how fast I can say call and turn my cards face up facing an all in with AA and KK. If I go out then there’s next time.
 
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I agree with Ruslan...never pre-flop, possibly post-flop or after the turn, depending on the board.
 
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Almost impossible, unless in a situation that would change my life and have a high payjump, where I had opponents almost eliminated from the tournament.
 
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It's a situation where it's very rare for someone to fold from AA, if it's a final table where I'm second and the chipleader goes all out against someone very short then I would consider folding for the money pay jump.
 
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Preflop in a standard tournament? No. Maybe KK if you have a stellar read.

In cash games, postflop or a satty? It depends.
 
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The only context where I would fold AA or KK is in the bubble of a satellite tournament since it doesn’t make sense to risk the tournament even if I have a 99% chance of winning.
 
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If your answer is NO please explain why.

If your answer is yes also, also please explain why and in what condition.
I have done this many times. If the cards on the table indicate a possible advantage for my opponent, I don't hesitate to fold AA or KK.
 
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AA should NEVER be folded—only in extreme ICM situations.
KK can be folded if you know your opponent has AA in a deep-stack game, but even then, it's rare.

In 99.9% of cases, calling an all-in with AA or KK is the best play.
 
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If there are only a few people left before the prize zone, then I will often throw away almost all the cards.
 
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seriously this silly question if u want fold KK or AA u should play checkers not poker.
 
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Based on my position in the tourney.

NO - if my position is in top 70% of the active players
YES - if my position is in last 30% of the active players in the tourney
what about preflop all in in early stage of a tournament?
 
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Yes I folded AA and KK preflop at the bubble in a satellite tournament where I was among the chip leaders and we were waiting for a day to be eliminated to secure a final tournament ticker.
 
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I don't/won't even play the whole Sat once I know I got enough chips it win the ticket. I close out the site and go do something more productive. <----4D chess. So I'm sure I've folded AA and KK plenty of times over 20+ years.

Cheers!!!
 
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The only way to get an AA is from a satellite where no matter what position you are in, the prizes will be the same, so if I have enough chips there is no need to risk it.
On the other hand, the KK can be shot in other situations
instance
The utg: up to 3 bb
utg+1: go up to 6bb
CO: I make a call
I go up to 12 bb
utg: I go up to 25bb
CO: all in game
This is most likely AA, so it's best to fold. Obviously it depends on the tournament and the player in front of you.
Many times with me hapening situation that I play AA preflop agresively and some player with worth hand puts all in to my rase. I have AA so I think I have to call and then he catches better hand. And I risked tournament life because got the AA and loose. Very disapointing but still I don't think I should fold AA on early stages of tournament.
 
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I won't do it preflop, otherwise there's no point in playing poker. Maybe on the post flop, depending on the situation.
So often I loose preflop with KK and AA:cry::) but still can not fold them)
 
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definitely a no-go. My friend definitely wouldn't fold a hand like that freeflop. If it was a board hand, maybe.
 
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It’s usually a race for me to see how fast I can say call and turn my cards face up facing an all in with AA and KK. If I go out then there’s next time.
I also think that preflop your chances to win with AA or KK so high that even if your opponent with pockets lower will catch a trips it's still worth to risk. Even so it feel so bad to be out of tournament when you hold so strong hand. Last time on live tournament from UTG I raised KK to 3bb I had 15bb stack and big blind (17bb) puts all inn I instantly call and se he has 44. Till the river I was fine but then 4 came and I was out 14th and 3 people was getting a 500 euro ticket((
 
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