8-tabling 100nl full ring video

[jaketrevvor]

ya, I thought about that , if he cbets ak/aq half the time here it's an almost exactly break even play (or if AQ 3bets half the time and AQ/AK cbets 2/3 of the time it's break even ) for you but without more stats on the guy its hard to say what this percentage is. But given the incredible dryness of the board I think most people are going to cbet a large proportion of the time.

 

[ChuckTs]

fwiw I posted this hand in the stox forum as well, and the main issue that came up was the preflop call rather than my flop raise.

 

[NineLions]

fwiw I posted this hand in the stox forum as well, and the main issue that came up was the preflop call rather than my flop raise.

That's what stuck out to me more than the raise. The old adage about preflop decisions leading to more difficult decisions, and particularly the fact that to some degree it hinged on the SB coming along to increase your implied odds.

I'm reading Sklansky/Miller Advance NLNE and they talk about considering the possibility of minraising preflop with pairs. A pot sweetener which won't fold out many players so that when you hit, you've got more potential players that might catch some piece, plus, you've essentially raised the stakes from $1 blinds to $2 blinds so it's easier to get more money in on the later streets. The reverse happens here because it's raised so much by the 3 bet preflop that effective stacks become much shorter for when you don't hit but have a tricky situation.


My thoughts, anyways.

 

[ChuckTs]

Yeah it definitely was hinging on the SB tagging along too, but I think I still like my call.

$18.50 in the pot after the 3-bet
$83.85 left in his stack, I have him covered

I'm getting 2.17:1 immediate odds

x:8.5 = 8:1
x/8.5 = 8/1
x = $68

I need to make $68 every time postflop to make this work if my math is correct which it very well might not be. He won't necessarily stack that often, but factor in the times when the SB calls (which adds to my immediate odds), when he gets his stack in postflop (which adds to my implied odds), and the times when I can take the pot down with a raise like I tried this time (position ftw!) and I'd say it's a call. It's certainly not clear, but I don't hate it.

As for the minraising point, it does carry some merit to it, but my opponents are generally fairly observant and I'd have to balance that play with some stronger hands as well which is something I don't want to do. Players also tend to peel/call down light much more often in smaller pots as well, so I'm not sure I like it. Maybe you could make a new thread about that - it's a whole 'nother issue in itself.

 

[Monoxide]

this was a trippy video to watch because ive never seen one w/ 8 games playing at once. Good comentary too even with all the action.

Do more vids it was good