When to withdraw after a win at the cash table? ; let's talk about percentages with respect to the maximum table entry

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Many times in cash sessions I doubled my stack in a short time, but I didn't know if I should continue playing or retire with a guaranteed win. In the end I kept going and ended up dropping my profit.
What do you do in that situation: do you get up from the table or continue to play?
 
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....I play as long as I feel like playing and the players I want to play are there,

a double up is just the start of making money on a cash table👍
 
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I rarely play cash games, but when I do, I usually buy in with the minimum. If I double up, I cash out and then sit back down again — and if I’m lucky, sometimes I even get seated at the same table.
 
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As long as you think you have an edge, you stay at a cash table. The deeper you are against one or several fish, the better.

You must be confident enough to cover the worst players.

It is also better to quit when you are down than when up, for psychological reasons. But you should not let some ups or downs in a single session affect you. It's all one long game in the long run.

Quit when you don't feel you have fish at the table or you are tired, but never because you are up. It's just a short-term "comfort blanket". It makes no mathematical sense.
 
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Take out small wins. Don’t overthink it. If you are up then take the money and run. The golden rule is take money when you can. In cash you will get sucked into chasing losses so take any wins and go. Cash is a very dangerous and difficult game to get ahead in, buyer beware. Caveat Emptor.
 
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Take out small wins. Don’t overthink it. If you are up then take the money and run. The golden rule is take money when you can.
NO. NO. NO.

Read my post above.

Maybe if you know you are a losing player, you should quit. But then never play cash games at all.

If you don't believe me, maybe you believe the low-stakes grinder that posted this:

 
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Quit when you don't feel you have fish at the table or you are tired, but never because you are up. It's just a short-term "comfort blanket". It makes no mathematical sense.
In general I agree with this, but there is one exception, which is based on the distribution of stack sizes. Lets say, you have 280BB, and the two worst players at the table are sitting with 25BB and 37BB respectively. However on your direct left the best player at the table is sitting with a 340BB stack, and to his left another good player is sitting with 180BB.

Then you are in a situation, where its limited, how much you can win from the bad players, but you are risking a lot of money against two players, who have position on you and perhaps also a skill edge. The ideal solution for this would be to take money off the table ("go south"), but thats generally not allowed. And for that reason your best option might be to leave the table and buy in for 100BB on another table.
 
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In general I agree with this, but there is one exception, which is based on the distribution of stack sizes. Lets say, you have 280BB, and the two worst players at the table are sitting with 25BB and 37BB respectively. However on your direct left the best player at the table is sitting with a 340BB stack, and to his left another good player is sitting with 180BB.

Then you are in a situation, where its limited, how much you can win from the bad players, but you are risking a lot of money against two players, who have position on you and perhaps also a skill edge. The ideal solution for this would be to take money off the table ("go south"), but thats generally not allowed. And for that reason your best option might be to leave the table and buy in for 100BB on another table.
I avoid playing against short stacks in Cash Games, so you do have a point in this particular scenario.

I guess we can be extra nitty and passive (but not weak) against the good players to control the pot size. Maybe do a Hellmuth classic and always check in dark, especially on the flop?

But when the fish is down to around a quarter of a full buy-in, sure, it can be best to look for other tables and quit if no better ones are available.

Online, this is easy, but Live, you also have to consider your image and that others don't see you as a "predator" or "bum hunter". If you play with the same people a big part of the time and/or want to get invited to private games, you have to give action to get action, as the old saying goes. And that also means risking a little extra certain session, so the good games are available to you in the future.

The fish can also notice if you always leave when they don't have much money left. Just because they are bad at poker, they don't have to be stupid in other areas of life.

But online, I would maybe stay for the 37BB stack, but that is borderline.
 
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Online, this is easy, but Live, you also have to consider your image and that others don't see you as a "predator" or "bum hunter". If you play with the same people a big part of the time and/or want to get invited to private games, you have to give action to get action, as the old saying goes. And that also means risking a little extra certain session, so the good games are available to you in the future.
Sure. I was talking specifically about online games, where you can easily just move to another table, and where nobody pay that much attention to, who is leaving when, or for what reason. In a live game you definitely need to think about, what it looks like to other people, if you leave earlier than originally planned.
 
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In general I agree with this, but there is one exception, which is based on the distribution of stack sizes. Lets say, you have 280BB, and the two worst players at the table are sitting with 25BB and 37BB respectively. However on your direct left the best player at the table is sitting with a 340BB stack, and to his left another good player is sitting with 180BB.

Then you are in a situation, where its limited, how much you can win from the bad players, but you are risking a lot of money against two players, who have position on you and perhaps also a skill edge. The ideal solution for this would be to take money off the table ("go south"), but thats generally not allowed. And for that reason your best option might be to leave the table and buy in for 100BB on another table.

This here exactly is basically when it's time to quit or at least find a new table. With that said sometimes I'll stick around and play knowing there's not much profit to be had. While I enjoy making a bit of money I also enjoy playing good/better players and the challenge that comes with that. You can learn a lot when studying the hands played vs other good players when doing hand reviews.

Cheers!!!
 
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If I get like 50% of my buy in, I'm happy, of course always depends of the other players and the way they play.
 
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I avoid playing against short stacks in Cash Games, so you do have a point in this particular scenario.

I guess we can be extra nitty and passive (but not weak) against the good players to control the pot size. Maybe do a Hellmuth classic and always check in dark, especially on the flop?

But when the fish is down to around a quarter of a full buy-in, sure, it can be best to look for other tables and quit if no better ones are available.

Online, this is easy, but Live, you also have to consider your image and that others don't see you as a "predator" or "bum hunter". If you play with the same people a big part of the time and/or want to get invited to private games, you have to give action to get action, as the old saying goes. And that also means risking a little extra certain session, so the good games are available to you in the future.

The fish can also notice if you always leave when they don't have much money left. Just because they are bad at poker, they don't have to be stupid in other areas of life. By the way, for anyone interested in exploring new online casinos or checking reviews before depositing, resources like Casino of the Kings Canada provide detailed ratings, game lists, and bonus breakdowns. It’s a good way to stay informed and make smarter decisions without risking your poker bankroll.

But online, I would maybe stay for the 37BB stack, but that is borderline.
I agree that it is more difficult to play live(y)
 
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That's why I preffer MTT instead of cash. Doubling up at cash games is not that hard, but making USD5 from a USD5 buy-in it's derisive, so you'll probably keep paying and chances are that you give all back.

If I would play cash, probably every double would mean: cashout and sit again. Repeat over and over
 
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I have a simple rule in cash games. I enter the game with a certain amount of money to play. I either lose everything and quit, or I achieve what I planned and quit.
 
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I have a simple rule in cash games. I enter the game with a certain amount of money to play. I either lose everything and quit, or I achieve what I planned and quit.
That can be a reasonable approach in live poker apart from the image considerations already mentioned, if you are seen as someone, who "hit and run". In online poker its not very practical though, since we typically want to have more money sitting in our account, than what we need to play a single session. So in online poker a better approach can be to set a stop-loss for yourself, especially if you have a tendency to tilt after losing. A stop loss could mean, that you have to end your session, if you are down more than 300-400BB.
 
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