$2.10 NL HE MTT: Struggling to understand ICM P/F Spots

[tzuriel]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

2.10

Currency

$

ICMizer says this was a push. Is that because I'm already in the pot as the BB and it's only 1.6 more to call? Even if I lost I would still have a big stack and the possibility of busting this player makes the risk worthwhile? There were several spots that ICMizer says I missed. Trying to understand the mechanics and reasoning behind it. Thanks!



NL Holdem $2+$0.10 (400000.00BB)
SB (2.7BBs) [VPIP: 22% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 6.1% | hands: 111]
HERO (15.4BBs)
BTN (11.3BBs) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 16.3% | AGG: 12.5% | Hands: 101]

Dealt to Hero: 6♠ Q♣

BTN Folds, SB Raises To 2.7BBs (allin), HERO Folds

 

[primrose]

You don't even need to understand ICM to see why this is a call. It's just an EV math problem. Forget ICMIZER, open Equilab and put on a shoving range for the SB and see how much equity you have against it with Q6o. It'll be a lot more than you need to break even.

 

[tzuriel]

Okay thanks primrose.

 

[fundiver199]

Its a pot odds call. The main rule is to always call in BB, if you are getting better than 2:1. You are playing close to chip EV here, because the shove is only for a fraction of your chips. So as already said, you dont need ICM software to understand the spot.

 

[Rldetheflop]

Easy call! But that being said sb should know you are definitely calling so not shoving super wide I wouldn't think especially given villain has allowed themselves to get this low in the first place

 

[eetenor]

ICMizer says this was a push. Is that because I'm already in the pot as the BB and it's only 1.6 more to call? Even if I lost I would still have a big stack and the possibility of busting this player makes the risk worthwhile? There were several spots that ICMizer says I missed. Trying to understand the mechanics and reasoning behind it. Thanks!

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NL Holdem $2+$0.10 (400000.00BB)
SB (2.7BBs) [VPIP: 22% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 6.1% | Hands: 111]
HERO (15.4BBs)
BTN (11.3BBs) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 16.3% | AGG: 12.5% | Hands: 101]

Dealt to Hero: 6♠ Q♣

BTN Folds, SB Raises To 2.7BBs (allin), HERO Folds

whenever we are doing chart work the first chart we look at is their chart. What should they be doing. Then we look at our reaction to that.
If our real world V are not shoving their chart then our response is not the same.
With that said most players would call here if they were thinking only of EV not future game- Looking at all three stack sizes may effect our decisions that would be a future game decision.