$10 NL HE 6-max: Should I Fold TPTK Here?

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I’d love your thoughts on this hand — I feel like I played it okay pre-flop but maybe overvalued my TPTK post-flop.

Hand:
Hero is on the Button with A♠K♣.
Villain is a tight-aggressive regular in the Small Blind.

Pre-Flop:

  • UTG folds
  • MP folds
  • CO folds
  • Hero raises to $3
  • SB 3-bets to $10
  • BB folds
  • Hero calls
Pot: $21

Flop: K♦7♣9♠
SB bets $12
Hero calls

Turn: 2♥
SB bets $28
Hero calls

Pot: $101

River: 7♠
SB shoves all-in for $90

At this point, I have top pair with top kicker but the Villain is representing real strength. The paired board worries me — could be a set or trips now. I didn’t think they’d barrel three streets like this with air, but maybe AQ bluff?

Questions:

  • Should I call or fold this river shove?
  • Is my turn call too loose?
  • Would you play this hand differently pre-flop or on the flop?
Any feedback on how you’d approach this spot is appreciated — I want to plug leaks where I might be paying off stronger hands too often.
 
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The bet amounts don't make any sense with the stakes you selected. A 3$ raise would be 30BB.

As for the hand, you definitely have to call, there are almost no hands that SB can have that beat you. Preflop should generally be a 4bet.
 
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There is something wrong with your hand history, because you posted it as a 10NL hand, but all the bets are in dollars. I am guessing, that it is an online 10NL hand as stated, but that all the bets are then in big blinds rather than dollars. So raise preflop to 3BB, 3-bet to 10BB, and then finally a 90BB jam on the river.

Preflop
Opening to 3BB is at little outdated in modern online cash games. Most people today use smaller sizing like 2,5BB. Against the 3-bet you can either call or 4-bet with intention to get it in against a 5-bet.

Flop and turn
If you are going to slowplay AK preflop by not 4-betting, you absolutely can not fold to normal sized flop and turn bets, when you flop TPTK on a board, where no flush or straight is possible, and where the opponent is very unlikely to have flopped two pair. On the other hand I dont see any reason to raise in position, so lets go to the river.

River
First of all did he cover you, or was his 90BB the effective stack? In the latter case the hand was 140BB deep, so not quite the standard 100BB online cash game hand. The board pairing is actually a good card for you, because it reduce the amount of flopped sets or two pair, and its highly unlikely, he was barrelling flop and turn with just bottom pair.

Even so its difficult to imagine, he is jamming a worse hand for value, so your hand is basically a bluff catcher now. But there is not that many logical value combos, that beat you. There are now only 5 combos of flopped sets and 3 combos of AA, because you block both AA and KK. And could he not be doing this with another AK? I think so, and in that case there are at least 6 combos, you chop with.

You are basically getting 2:1, so just finding 6 chop combos is close to making this a breakeven call, if there are 8 value combos. And is there literally no chance, he is ever trippel barrel bluffing? I dont think, we can say so, so I think, you have to close your eyes and call it off here, especially because its a late position confrontation, and you have kind of underrepresented your hand preflop.
 
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4bet pre. As played easy call on the river, expecting to chop with AK often
 
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I’d love your thoughts on this hand — I feel like I played it okay pre-flop but maybe overvalued my TPTK post-flop.

Hand:
Hero is on the Button with A♠K♣.
Villain is a tight-aggressive regular in the Small Blind.

Pre-Flop:

  • UTG folds
  • MP folds
  • CO folds
  • Hero raises to $3
  • SB 3-bets to $10
  • BB folds
  • Hero calls
Pot: $21

Flop: K♦7♣9♠
SB bets $12
Hero calls

Turn: 2♥
SB bets $28
Hero calls

Pot: $101

River: 7♠
SB shoves all-in for $90

At this point, I have top pair with top kicker but the Villain is representing real strength. The paired board worries me — could be a set or trips now. I didn’t think they’d barrel three streets like this with air, but maybe AQ bluff?

Questions:

  • Should I call or fold this river shove?
  • Is my turn call too loose?
  • Would you play this hand differently pre-flop or on the flop?
Any feedback on how you’d approach this spot is appreciated — I want to plug leaks where I might be paying off stronger hands too often.
When we play a hand we have to have a plan for further streets. So when you call preflop it is because you are trying to hit an Ace or K, before you see the flop you have to decide what will you do on the flop if your V bets and you missed or if they bet when you hit.
You chose to call why? What range of hands would the V bet on the flop--the whole range not just AA KK what else would an agg player bet?
What hands are we ahead of that they might bet? What bluffs might they have? Refine that range on turn same 2 questions some of their flop range stops betting what stops?

If you practice building these ranges your decisions will become much easier.

As played no need to fold turn--- River--- does this V have any bluffs---if no then fold if yes then call

They might have AK or even KQ KJ

:unsure::geek:
 
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Std river call. Don't be results oriented. :)
 
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