$16,5 NL HE MTT: 77

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The first hand is a very standard rejamming spot. Opponent opened on BTN with <20BB, and while you could defend by calling, 77 dont play well out of position with this stack size, so rejamming is definitely the higher EV play.

The second hand it depends, if the bounties were now in play, which you did not specify. If they were, then you can go for the hellmary 50BB overjam to isolate the all-in player and try to win his bounty. But if they are not yet in play, because you are not yet in the money, then this is an easy fold.

Just calling is kind of awkward, because what is your plan, if the original raiser comes back over the top? Or even worse if he flat, and now there is 45BB in the pot and 35 BB left behind, and flop comes J94 or whatever.
 
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The first hand is a very standard rejamming spot. Opponent opened on BTN with <20BB, and while you could defend by calling, 77 dont play well out of position with this stack size, so rejamming is definitely the higher EV play.

The second hand it depends, if the bounties were now in play, which you did not specify. If they were, then you can go for the hellmary 50BB overjam to isolate the all-in player and try to win his bounty. But if they are not yet in play, because you are not yet in the money, then this is an easy fold.

Just calling is kind of awkward, because what is your plan, if the original raiser comes back over the top? Or even worse if he flat, and now there is 45BB in the pot and 35 BB left behind, and flop comes J94 or whatever.
I didn't want to call , 3bet or allin, but even after 3bet the pot is too big and I'm having a hard time folding.

Even the bounties were not valid, then it was a mistake to call here, it's hard to play well with medium hand pairs

You're right I thought this through with the call, I was just putting myself in an increasingly difficult situation, thanks for the help
 
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The same tournament

PReflop BU Q10S a raise can be called,

FLop:Would a 3bet or allin have been better? or is that too aggressive?

On the river the pot odds were 46%, I had 9 outs on a flush, 4 outs on a set of 2 pair, I couldn't call here or what do you guys think?
 
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The same tournament

PReflop BU Q10S a raise can be called,

FLop:Would a 3bet or allin have been better? or is that too aggressive?

On the river the pot odds were 46%, I had 9 outs on a flush, 4 outs on a set of 2 pair, I couldn't call here or what do you guys think?

Preflop
You could 3-bet here, but its a bit awkward, because everyone have around 20BB, which makes it a rejamming spot, except that SB has around 50BB. So I think, the better option is to call and see a flop in position, which you did.

Flop
I dont do a lot of raising with draws on A high boards, because typically people just dont fold top pair, and then you are just getting it in behind.

Turn
Against hands like AK or AJ you are getting pretty much the odds, you need, with a 14 out draw. Sure there are worse scenarios, like if you are against AQ, where you only have 9 outs or AT, where you only have 11 outs. But you cant assume, you are always behind. You have second pair now, and there has to be at least some frequency, that this guy is bluffing. Like maybe with a hand like KJ or K9 of spades, where he only have 3 outs. So while I dont think, calling here is massively profitable, this fold is definitely very tight, and I would have made the call. Of course its even more a call, if you could now win his bounty.
 
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Preflop
You could 3-bet here, but its a bit awkward, because everyone have around 20BB, which makes it a rejamming spot, except that SB has around 50BB. So I think, the better option is to call and see a flop in position, which you did.

Flop
I dont do a lot of raising with draws on A high boards, because typically people just dont fold top pair, and then you are just getting it in behind.

Turn
Against hands like AK or AJ you are getting pretty much the odds, you need, with a 14 out draw. Sure there are worse scenarios, like if you are against AQ, where you only have 9 outs or AT, where you only have 11 outs. But you cant assume, you are always behind. You have second pair now, and there has to be at least some frequency, that this guy is bluffing. Like maybe with a hand like KJ or K9 of spades, where he only have 3 outs. So while I dont think, calling here is massively profitable, this fold is definitely very tight, and I would have made the call. Of course its even more a call, if you could now win his bounty.
First of all thank you for your reply

That's why I didn't want to 3bet preflop because if someone had pushed back I wouldn't have been happy to call

His half pot raise on the flop suggests a strong hand

I had a lot of outs, so sometimes you have to take these situations
 
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