$0 NL HE MTT: Flush on the flop

[PuletJelek]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

0

Freeroll

1. Freeroll

Currency

$

What is your oppinion about this hand and style of play..???

Natural8 HH Natural8 Hourly Freerolls -#TM1359199717

PokerCraft Crazypoe89 Hand History

gg.gl

 

[June4Spades]

Suicidal - is my opinion. That's a classic bad beat and an example of the danger of playing it too slow. The villain would have probably folded if the hero had raised after the flop.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
You can open A7s from any seat, but when someone already entered the pot from UTG, and with a huge 4BB raise as well, this is just an easy fold. I would not get involved here with anything worse than AJs or AQo.

Flop
You obviously got bailed out by flopping the nuts, and I like your bet as well as the sizing.

Turn
The board pairing was obviously not, what you were looking for, and by leading into you he is saying, that the second J improved him. You could be drawing dead to a boat now, and raising would be an overplay. On the other side he could be doing this with trips, or he could be on some random bluff, so I am pretty much never folding the nut flush to this action. And I am certainly not folding in a freeroll, where some players could be bad enough to lead out with top pair or an overpair, because "LOL now I have two pair".

River
With trips on the board your hand went completely up in flames, and I definitely agree with your decision to fold.

Conclusion
Preflop was to loose but did not matter for the outcome, since the nut flush with AQ or AJ is the exact same hand as the nut flush with A7. Postflop was played absolutely flawless and is basically just a bad beat story, especially if he had a hand like AK or KQ. If he had KK or KJ, its not so much of a bad beat, and in that case the river card was actually good, since it saved you from going broke.

 

[PuletJelek]

Preflop
You can open A7s from any seat, but when someone already entered the pot from UTG, and with a huge 4BB raise as well, this is just an easy fold. I would not get involved here with anything worse than AJs or AQo.

Flop
You obviously got bailed out by flopping the nuts, and I like your bet as well as the sizing.

Turn
The board pairing was obviously not, what you were looking for, and by leading into you he is saying, that the second J improved him. You could be drawing dead to a boat now, and raising would be an overplay. On the other side he could be doing this with trips, or he could be on some random bluff, so I am pretty much never folding the nut flush to this action. And I am certainly not folding in a freeroll, where some players could be bad enough to lead out with top pair or an overpair, because "LOL now I have two pair".

River
With trips on the board your hand went completely up in flames, and I definitely agree with your decision to fold.

Conclusion
Preflop was to loose but did not matter for the outcome, since the nut flush with AQ or AJ is the exact same hand as the nut flush with A7. Postflop was played absolutely flawless and is basically just a bad beat story, especially if he had a hand like AK or KQ. If he had KK or KJ, its not so much of a bad beat, and in that case the river card was actually good, since it saved you from going broke.

Thank you for your wise opinion...
Since I have a big stack and the opponent is an aggressive player, I decided to call the bet and binggo I had a nut flush...
Ok it's time to set a trap...
But yeah the turn and river card made my nut flush dead..

 

[300HPGOD]

I agree with Fundiver but I will add that in game I usually check back the flop here unless I know the villain is a call station and I think that is usually a mistake on my part but it is generally how I play it readless. I will say though that if villain is going to call this flop (for other reasons than this is a freeroll and they call anything) then you would think the call would be based on they have Kx, Jx, a decent heart like Q or 10 of hearts, or a straight draw. I will discount smaller pocket pairs calling any sizing or 4x (4x pre flop should not have many if any 4x besides possibly 44). With that being said I think you can bet bigger here if you are going to bet. Nothing huge or anything like that but I would think if villain is calling 2700 with the hands I mentioned earlier then they will also call 3500 with them as well. That does not sound like a lot but the larger flop bet allows us to get more later in the hand on future streets (hence why I think my checking back move is probably a mistake).

As far as the turn goes I would think, as Fundiver says, that the when they lead into you the J helped them. However, I also agree that you dont jam here. In fact you get to play the hand perfectly by just calling. We get a little screwed when a 4th heart comes since it kills the action but with the villain checking the flop and then leading turn I would actually put them on Jx (turned out to be wrong but thats what I would feel). Therefore my plan would be that villain is not folding the river so I can call and first see if the board pairs. If it does I pitch, as you did, if it does not villain is not folding what I think is Jx and we can go for the pot. I also would not think villain would check the flop with two pair so even though I thought they have Jx I would not put it as a boat Jx. I did not think they would be checking Kx though on the flop either so it does show what I know lol.