$1.10 NL HE MTT: CC Daily Platinum

[mariussica88]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

1.10

Currency

$

BB stats after 261 hands (he was in sit out 125 of them) : VPIP 9 PFR 6 Limp 2 Post flop AGG 3 Fold to Flop C-bet 100 and 3-bet 2.63

Do you guys think that my raise pre-flop is to small? Is C-betting there a mistake (i decided to c-bet since he has a Fold to C-bet stat big ). I realize that calling the river was a mistake since I can not beat only a bluff.

pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - 500/1,000 (100 ante) - 8 players

UTG: 3,054 (3 bb)
UTG+1: 9,980 (10 bb)
MP: 7,944 (8 bb)
MP+1: 11,299 (11 bb)
CO (Hero): 18,915 (19 bb)
BU: 7,224 (7 bb)
SB: 35,008 (35 bb)
BB: 16,800 (17 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,300) Hero is CO with A♣ Q♣
4 players fold, Hero raises to 2,500, 2 players fold, BB calls 1,500

Flop: (6,300) 8♥ T♦ T♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 3,024, BB calls 3,024

Turn: (12,348) 7♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (12,348) 4♣ (2 players)
BB bets 4,000, Hero calls 4,000

Total pot: 20,348

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[Andyreas]

From my point of view your bet of 2.5 BB preflop is totally fine.
Also the C-bet is valid from my point of view. He checked, so there's a possibility he didn't hit anything.
But yes, his bet on the river for 1/3 of the pot indicates he hit something. Therefore you probably would have done better with folding since you didn't hit anything.

 

[Matt_Burns88]

Actually, I would say your open raise is too large. <30bb we should be open min-raising.

Your c-bet is also on the large side as well. This is a spot where your opponent likely has nothing, so betting small , around 1/3 pot, will normally allow you to take down the pot and when they do have something it costs you less. So you could have saved 500 chips pre-flop, and if you bet 1/3 pot on the flop you another 1300 chips. This also means that villains bet on the river, will be smaller as well - I'll get to that in a second. The turn check is absolutely fine, but another small c-bet can be good against sticky opponents. Once of the obvious draws does get there, so that is certainly something to bear in mind.

Note; I have not looked at the result of the hand, so this is very interesting for me to see if I'm right. When villain bets small on the river, this should never be a bluff. He has already committed 5 of his 17bb stack to the pot, bluffing a third of his remaining stack is very unlikely. If he's at all balanced, he should be shoving his bluffs along with hands like straights and boats. So a 1/3 pot bet is interesting. I would suggest it's a weak marginal made hand with something like an 8 or a 7, or a strong hand like a straight or trips, looking to try to get called by A high type hands. Based on this and without any other information on villain, I think this is a clear fold.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
As Matt-Burns88 say, with only 19BB effective the standard open size is a min-raise, or if you want to get fancy 2,1 or 2,2BB. In this particular configuration I dont think, going to 2,5BB is a significant mistake though. BB will often just call rather than shove on you, and against BTN you are priced in to call with your entire range even after min-raising. So its only really against SB, that a smaller size can save you chips, when you fold to his 3-bet. And with this particular hand you are not folding to 3-bets from either opponent. So this is not really a big deal, but to answer your question your sizing is certainly not to small.

Flop
I lean towards checking back this flop, because the SPR is very low, and you have a lot of showdown value. It would really suck to get check-jammed on, because you dont want to call it off with A high possibly drawing dead, and you also dont want to fold a hand, which is best a lot of the time. If you bet here, its mainly for protection, and in that case an even smaller size will get the job done.

Turn
This card was actually not a blank, since J9 made a straight now, and 97 made a pair, and those were OESDs on the flop. I definitely agree with checking back.

River
You are getting a very good price, but even so hero calling with ace high seem somewhat optimistic. The opponent is a tight player, and this small sizing looks very much like "please give me action". He has less than a pot sized bet left, and if he was bluffing with a busted draw, I am inclined to think, he would just have shipped it. That being said not having a heart in your hand is good, because it gives him more busted flushdraws. And there is certainly nothing wrong with calling, even though you only beat a bluff. In fact that is just good poker, but all in all this call is marginal, and personally I tend to overfold in spots like this.

 

[300HPGOD]

Pre flop is fine although min betting is probably better in the long run at this stack size although Fundiver makes a really good point that with this specific hand we are not folding to 3 bets anyway so sizing at 2.5 BBs is not a mistake. If we were opening a hand that we planned to fold to a 3 bet then opening smaller on this stack is better.

On the flop I would split between checking and betting and I really think both are fine. Would depend on how sticky I think the opponent plays but at both them and us are at the same stack level so I would not think they would float too much here so I do slightly lean towards betting. I think your sizing is fine since we do really want a fold here even though all hands that fold are worse than ours. At this point we just want to gain some chips starting at 19BBs so taking it down now is the objective. On that thought though we dont want to go overboard with sizing because we dont have to (or shouldnt have to) to get folds so I personally would go 2800 or so here which is essentially what you did. I also like betting slightly better than checking since if we check here villain can lead any turn and if we dont hit it then we kind have to fold for the same reason why I said I dont think villain will float us. We cant be floating on our stack size either.

After villain calls the flop bet I am done with this hand since I would be thinking (without knowing anything about villains post flop call tendencies) that they arent floating with much and whatever they called the flop with they are not pitching later on. Therefore I would be trying to get to showdown and have no plans of putting any money in the rest of the hand. With that, its an easy check behind on the turn.

River doesnt change much but when villain bets I am sticking to my thinking and not putting anything more in. Its tempting for sure to call here and there could be bluffs (if villain actually does float the flop) as they could easily interpret your turn check as weakness. However, this is a freeroll and I dont think the average freeroll player bluffs enough here in villain's shoes so I would think this bet is one that villain probably wants you to call.

 

[I Live Poker]

BB stats after 261 hands (he was in sit out 125 of them) : VPIP 9 PFR 6 Limp 2 Post flop AGG 3 Fold to Flop C-bet 100 and 3-bet 2.63

Do you guys think that my raise pre-flop is to small? Is C-betting there a mistake (i decided to c-bet since he has a Fold to C-bet stat big ). I realize that calling the river was a mistake since I can not beat only a bluff.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 500/1,000 (100 ante) - 8 players

UTG: 3,054 (3 bb)
UTG+1: 9,980 (10 bb)
MP: 7,944 (8 bb)
MP+1: 11,299 (11 bb)
CO (Hero): 18,915 (19 bb)
BU: 7,224 (7 bb)
SB: 35,008 (35 bb)
BB: 16,800 (17 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,300) Hero is CO with A♣ Q♣
4 players fold, Hero raises to 2,500, 2 players fold, BB calls 1,500

Flop: (6,300) 8♥ T♦ T♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 3,024, BB calls 3,024

Turn: (12,348) 7♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (12,348) 4♣ (2 players)
BB bets 4,000, Hero calls 4,000

Total pot: 20,348

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The information you have about him is that he is very tight and that he folds a lot to c-bet so when he calls the c-bet it is already a reason to be careful.