$2 NLHE 6-max: BTN vs BB - Bet Sizing on River w/ Runner Runner Flush

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Hey guys,

what do you think of this hand? I thought both calls are alright because I have lots of outs and some showdown value with the 5 if he's bluffing. While playing I thougt it was two obvious calls, but afterwards I think he could also have been barreling with a better flush draw (until the River check). Also I'm pretty sure I messed up with the sizing on the River? After the check he probably only has a marginal made, and it was pretty easy to read that I'm on a draw. So a smaller Sizing would be better?

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UTG: $1.62 (81 bb)
BU (Hero): $2.00 (100 bb)
SB: $1.32 (66 bb)
BB: $2.36 (118 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with 7 5
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 8 2 5 (2 players)
BB bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.29) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $0.19, Hero calls $0.19

River: ($0.67) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB folds

Total pot: $0.67 (Rake: $0.04)
BU (Hero) wins $0.63
 
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In general I liked your initiative. But you should know that both you and the villain represent positions of wide range. And on the river you are winning mainly speculative hands like yours, which could have bluffed postflop like: 96s or 97s. I mean, you don't represent enough flushes on the river, so if a V ever raises you a big size OTR you are probably behind against a better flush and should consider folding. However, if you are going to bet as big as you did, you should probably never fold to an x ​​/ jam.
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Your sizing is on the large size, which technically means you should have a polarised range in that spot (nuts and bluffs).

If you can also bet your bluffs in that spot using the same sizing, then you make villain's life very difficult. You become balanced, and he has to call your big bets more frequently knowing that you can bluff in that spot.
 
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Too big bet. But probably if he had nothing he would have folded anyway.
 
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You condensed your range quite a bit by calling two streets while villain still has a few nutted combo's. I can see villain taking this line with AhXh (most likely with a flopped pair though considering the donk). Because you can't really claim to be playing a polarised range I like betting smaller to extract some value from the weaker made hands in villain's range (weak pairs, two-pair maybe sets).

To be honest with exactly 75s, BB donk betting puts you in a pretty tough spot throughout the hand. Considering they're also donking when you hold big overpairs, AXs with a pair and a BDFD, or sets, I would say they're making a pretty big mistake that just happens to work out this time.
 
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In general I liked your initiative. But you should know that both you and the villain represent positions of wide range. And on the river you are winning mainly speculative hands like yours, which could have bluffed postflop like: 96s or 97s. I mean, you don't represent enough flushes on the river, so if a V ever raises you a big size OTR you are probably behind against a better flush and should consider folding. However, if you are going to bet as big as you did, you should probably never fold to an x ​​/ jam.
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Thank you for your answer :) Didn't thought about that, but your are probably right.. with this sizing I basically commited myself to call his jam.

What would have been you answer if he tripple barrels? Just a call, because he only has bluffs or better flushes?
 
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Thank you for your answer :) Didn't thought about that, but your are probably right.. with this sizing I basically commited myself to call his jam.

What would have been you answer if he tripple barrels? Just a call, because he only has bluffs or better flushes?


If V makes a bet on the river of similar size to the previous ones, we should call quickly, if we call OTT.
We blocked A5hh and A7hh which are hands that a V could have bluffed from the previous fairways, as it reduces the chances that we will have 67s or pocket 5s, in our range of BU. We also unlock 4 combos: A3o (with the ace of heart, so that the V can bluff).
If V is very passive, it will have a great tendency to bet on value postflop, which would be low-medium sets for this texture. In that case we lose against a maximum of 8 combos. So we are totally balanced if we call OTR.
 
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2 seems like kind of a bad river for you because it may counterfeit his two pairs and he could put you on 2x as well as flushes OTR. Sizing I agree with others should be smaller OTR
 
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