Is poker more luck in the short term or skill in the long term?

[CompulsiveGambl]

I see a lot of people saying that in poker luck influences the short term, but skill prevails over time.


Do you agree with that? Have you ever had phases where everything went wrong even if you played the right one?
How do you maintain confidence in your game even when the results don't seem to keep up?

You just need to know the hand rankings, positions and understand the betting pattern if you try to learn more you're going to be doomed play tight and simple for winning and yes luck is always there and only fools like me gamble irrespective of the losses and if you're lucky there's no long or short term you'll make good money and if you're not you'll keep losing or get heads up against some maniacs and keep losing like me

 

[CompulsiveGambl]

No. I think they do not "work" the same way as the source codes must be different but I believe they're all fair RNG that are unpredictable.

Any evidence of a pattern would cause the site to be shutdown. That's the core of the game.
RNG must not have any patterns as they are suppose to be random. Theory is the difference in results between rooms maybe due to the different styles of game play by regular players.

I've lost every single hand with pocket aces on gg poker while going pre flop all in during high stakes MTT till date I've only won 10% of the times which are in cash games and freeroll small pots which make me think a lot cuz either everyone folds or they re raise like hell cuz they also have pocket pairs or Acehighs

 

[Snake2007]

Poker must be understood and played properly. You must have both luck and a lot of knowledge.

 

[CompulsiveGambl]

No. I think they do not "work" the same way as the source codes must be different but I believe they're all fair RNG that are unpredictable.

Any evidence of a pattern would cause the site to be shutdown. That's the core of the game.
RNG must not have any patterns as they are suppose to be random. Theory is the difference in results between rooms maybe due to the different styles of game play by regular players.

Few people act like they never faced things like this I've played on few sites 5$-10$ cash games and the same people are present on every table always betting raising so big only when you get a premium your set land and you have a back flush or straight and two pair kinda hands they push all in after the flop turn and river are their cards boom you lose with two pair against 4 of a kind of 5s and they're winning players over 100k in profits after checking their stats on sharkscope and I've noticed few tournament players too where I was allowed only to play 4 tables at a time they were present on all from low to high stakes and make thousands daily and disappear for a while than they're back again they win and disappear I'm not sure what it is but everyday a new player like that appears wins and vanishes it's just my intuition that they are bots or maybe some super access users from sites itself hired on some %age of the winning and I've also heard from people on discord that they'll provide a App in which you can see others cards as well as what's gonna come on turn and river and that's raised suspicion as a few players always available on table don't they sleep or get bored i just don't know how to explain this but I've faced this other sites use different accounts everyday but if you wanna see how good are install any indian poker app and try you'll get it how frustrating it is getting bad beats every next hand and playing for 10k and getting busted in 1st hand with pocket AA pre flop all in feels like

 

[mardi1987]

Poker is often a game of luck in the short term — you can play perfectly and still lose to a one-outer. But in the long run, it's skill that separates recreational players from true grinders. A good player knows how to find value, avoid marginal spots, and adapt to opponents. Luck might decide a hand, but skill decides a career

 

[23maxim88]

Yeah, I’ve had plenty of downswings where it felt like nothing worked, even when I was making the right decisions. The key is trusting your process. Review your hands, study consistently, and focus on making +EV plays. The results catch up eventually — you just have to ride out the storm and not let the variance shake your confidence. That’s what separates real grinders from the rest.

 

[Iryna Stryzheuskaya]

I just try not to relate to the poker too seriously. There are more important things for me.

 

[romerim]

In my opinion, both luck and skill play important roles, but they manifest themselves differently over time. In the short term, luck plays a more important role, as a bad hand can beat a strong hand by chance. In the long term, skill becomes more important, as experienced players who make good decisions, manage their bets well, and read their opponents tend to have better results over time.

 

[Sparta77]

Luck and knowledge are also important in poker. In the long run, one is not without the other to be successful.

 

[chicbulls2]

You always need luck in the end

 

[Newzooozooo]

Hi
In the long run, poker will always be about your skills first and foremost, and only then about luck.

 

[antonis32123]

Rng is more important on the long and on the short term , when we refer to online poker . I see players playing with rng , making laughable decisions ang getting rewarded by rng , these decisions would cost them severely in live poker , where skill prevails on the long run , skill to play cards and players , not skill to manipulate the outcome on the board . That's scum .

 

[rufininha14]

Long-term skill, over time you gain experience and play better and learning to read your opponent helps a lot too and technique comes with time, it's no use.

 

[Toruk Makto]

Long-term ability!

 

[Kaptain Karl]

I'm new to poker. Already I've decided it's more about discipline than "luck or skill." I try to have the discipline to make the higher percentage move ... just as I did in martial arts, tennis or pickleball.

Accept you're going to lose more hands than you win. (Try to lose small ... and win bigger.)
Pay attention to your position ... every hand.
Stop playing garbage hands.

Last week a player was complimenting my play. I replied that she was doing better than I was. After two hours she busted and I was ahead pretty solidly. (This is a weird game.)

- KK

 

[Leandro6803]

Yes, exactly your placement is luck in the short term and skill in the long term, but you will have to be lucky and study a lot.

 

[Ruslan L]

I always maintain self-confidence regardless of the results of the day, week, month or even year
Without self-confidence, I think you can't get off the couch
I play poker for fun, but nevertheless, I try to play in a disciplined and patient manner in order to improve my skills every time and have better prospects in the future.

 

[s0ftdumps]

I was thinking about this yesterday, I think both things are true, and also the opposite, you can do everything right and everything go wrong, especially depending on the room you play in.
But the nature of poker does involve a lot of luck. Think about how hard it is to win a tournament where 1k players, 5k players are giving their best and trying to win, I also think that when technique, tactics, focus, mentality and all the attributes that a good player needs, are equal, what will define who is the winner is luck.
So the best we can do is try to extract 100% of what is in our control, but that is no guarantee of being a winner, this is just to minimize losses, to be as ready as possible for when luck embraces you.

Poker is one of those games where both extremes coexist. You can do everything right and still lose, or make mistakes and still run deep. Over a large enough sample, skill becomes clear, but in any single tournament, variance plays a massive role. When thousands of players are competing with strong fundamentals, the edges are very small, and luck often becomes the deciding factor. All we can really do is keep improving the parts we can control, like mindset, decisions, and preparation, so that when variance finally shifts in our favor, we are ready to make the most of it.

 

[Rob Hobson]

Short term lucky is king, long run, skill

 

[dreamer13]

Poker is a game of luck and skill, but skill plays a more significant role in the long run. Luck certainly plays a role in individual hands and tournaments, but skill—the ability to read opponents, make strategic decisions, analyze the game, and adapt to different situations—determines a player's long-term success.The point of poker is that if you consistently apply your statistical advantages and skills, you will eventually make a profit.

 

[Baurzhan11]

I was in wpt global and was in the black for three days then I lost all the money I won I think when I was winning at the beginning I played seriously then I started playing not seriously so I started thinking that I was the best player that I would easily win but in the end I lost I think motivation to win is not unimportant in poker to win you need a lot of desire one discipline is not enough this is a competition and each game is a fight in which the player must show the maximum to win it's like the Olympic Games the one who has more desire wins somehow I think

 

[I Live Poker]

Poker is one of those games where both extremes coexist. You can do everything right and still lose, or make mistakes and still run deep. Over a large enough sample, skill becomes clear, but in any single tournament, variance plays a massive role. When thousands of players are competing with strong fundamentals, the edges are very small, and luck often becomes the deciding factor. All we can really do is keep improving the parts we can control, like mindset, decisions, and preparation, so that when variance finally shifts in our favor, we are ready to make the most of it.

There are environments, experiences and cycles. Nothing is useless, however we need to understand well what we justify and what makes us justify remaining in the cycles, when we have nothing more to learn.

 

[Falai_san]

for me i see In the short term. Mostly luck
Over a few hands or sessions outcomes are heavily influenced by luckA beginner can beat a pro with the right cards
You might make the best decisions and still lose due to a bad beat.
but In the long term. Mostly skill.
Good players consistently make better decisions: managing risk, reading opponents, calculating odds, and avoiding emotional tilt. Over time, these edges add up and overcome short-term luck.

 

[ironduke11]

luck is an element depending on the choice of strategy of a given player but to me it is always skill based on knowledge and experience and self mastery.

 

[hajaehyun]

It takes luck, but skill and patience are more helpful in winning in the long run.