Thanks for the replies. I read them all. Well I think I should let this last try to be a lesson for me. Won about $30 at the cash tables on SB, so I moved $20 to the crap tables. This is the truth. I could almost tell when I was going to 7 out. What I was doing was to make one point, and then place money on the COME part of the table, which rolls me another point. and them I would 7 out. Oh well, I'm done with the craps. GL to you all