HL5 Zoom. It's a strange line to call pre-flop all-in with JQ without fold equity.

[ronn6583]

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Knowing which hands will win gives you an overwhelming advantage over the field.
Of course this is a joke, dispersion explains everything ....
But it's not true, it's strange in one session there are two such draws: the call of the all-in on pre-flop and the result !!!!

Are you going to call preflop with a jack queen in NL5 zoom? Isn't it -EV here?

For those who have the guts to play this way: that's for sure + EV (or they have insider information)

KK vs QJ KK = -EV QJ= + EV

AK vs QJ AK = -EV QJ= + EV

 

[0546474]

There are bingo players at all levels nl5 is no exception and in my opinion the game at the nl5 limit is almost no different from the game at the nl2 limit !!! At the nl10 limit there are already more thinking players, but there are also a lot of bingo players at this limit !!!

 

[EarnDAStack]

Don't play with a short stack and you won't find yourself in these types of positions for starters.

With pot odds it's pretty much a snap call vs your short stack. Most people might not call at lower stakes plus they will be jamming tighter than equilibrium making it less profitable on the whole but he still has slam dunk odds on the call.

He's flipping vs all the lower pocket pairs you would be jamming up to TT which is a really good hand for you to have in this spot w/ short stack, he's blocking JJ and QQ leaving only 3 combos of each of those and has good odds vs AK. He is crushed by KK and AA which will happen a lot at lower stakes because people are nittier in these spots but it's still a printing call and a printing jam by you vs perceived ranges.

If you want to engage with pot odds more you should get something like flopzilla and see what other hands you would jam there, figure out the pot odds he would need to call and see how much QJs had vs your range.

 

[ronn6583]

Playing with a medium stack has its downsides, but it does have its upsides.
The GTO strategy is very effective at stakes from NL50 and up. On NL5, the game is more straightforward (What they usually show is what they have). When working with programs that use Nash equilibrium when making decisions. The decision will depend on the range you envision.
At NL 5 ZOOM, with such a preflop play, in most cases the range is used: QQ+;AK.
Except when more advanced players try to exploit tight and nit players. But this is until it is clear that they are being exploited. Usually a day or two or a few hours.
I don't have the opportunity to look at the flopzilla or other program, but it would be very interesting to know. If you give Villain a range of QQ+; AK. Would call all-in with QJ be profitable due to the size of the effective stack?

 

[Redman1902]

Against a range of QQ+, AK there is an equity of ~28.4% for QJs. Neglecting rake, QJs would need more than ~35.1% equity to make the call profitable.

You reach the calling limit with QJs with the given stack sizes once 77+ and AQ+ are included in the shoving range. If the shoving range also contains the small pairs, a call with QJs becomes profitable. However, there is always the question of whether you have to make a 3b against a short stack with this hand in position.

 

[Vallet]

What these players are doing is clearly not a good game. Let JQ win now. A lucky hand for some players. If we are talking about approximate all-in ranges on the preflop QQ+ and AQ+, then let's look at other hands.
For example 89 suited.
82% vs 18% and 78% vs 22%
Ad 65% vs 35% and Ad 60% vs 40%

89 clubs looks better on preflop than JQ doesn't it? but this does not mean that it is necessary to shove all-in.

 

[EarnDAStack]

What these players are doing is clearly not a good game. Let JQ win now. A lucky hand for some players. If we are talking about approximate all-in ranges on the preflop QQ+ and AQ+, then let's look at other hands.
For example 89 suited.
82% vs 18% and 78% vs 22%
Ad 65% vs 35% and Ad 60% vs 40%

89 clubs looks better on preflop than JQ doesn't it? but this does not mean that it is necessary to shove all-in.

Hero had less than 40 bbs. He should be jamming way wider than QQ+ AQ

 

[Niykk]

I wouldn't call with JQ all-in preflop.
There isn't any reason to do so as losing is what would happen way more than 50%.

 

[Vallet]

Hero had less than 40 bbs. He should be jamming way wider than QQ+ AQ

If a player is not comfortable playing with such a stack size, he can always add up to 100 BB. What's the point of jamming in a cash game with a wide range?
In the first hand, the villain either did not pay attention to the hero's stack, or deliberately raised on the preflop. Because what's the point of isolating and investing 35BB on preflop with JQ? He could have just called.
The second hand of the villain 61 BB all in preflop with JQ. An incredible call. Maybe he doesn't know where the fold button is.

 

[Moroccanbluff26]

Well zoom is not kinda of game that I play

 

[WrongUsername]

glad still have this players, playing the game =)

 

[EarnDAStack]

If a player is not comfortable playing with such a stack size, he can always add up to 100 BB. What's the point of jamming in a cash game with a wide range?
In the first hand, the villain either did not pay attention to the hero's stack, or deliberately raised on the preflop. Because what's the point of isolating and investing 35BB on preflop with JQ? He could have just called.
The second hand of the villain 61 BB all in preflop with JQ. An incredible call. Maybe he doesn't know where the fold button is.

It's profitable with pot odds He was investing $1.26 to win a pot of $3.75