$5 NL HE 6-max:

[Sunz of Beaches]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$.02/$.05

Table Format

6-max (6 seats)

Currency

$

Played this hand some time ago, only memories still exist.

Want some opinions and then i will share some thoughts. Action was more or less like this:

Utg limps, everyone folds and we hold AQ on the button with a full stack of 100bb.

We raise 4bb and only utg comes along

Flop: AQ8 with 2 diamonds.

We bet half pot and get called

Turn was a seven. We bet pretty big, i think 3/4 pot and get called.

River was basically a blank, 4 or something but no diamond. Only a very funky straight possible (iirc) and a set that beats us but we CHECK with the intention of snapping off every bet possible.

Now utg goes into tank and 1 second before his whole timebank runs out he decides to overbet shove allin.

Hero?

 

[Station_Master]

Something is wrong with the hand history as if you were on the button you had position so couldnt have checked river.

I dont think i'm folding top two anyway especially if we have shown weakness

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

Something is wrong with the hand history as if you were on the button you had position so couldnt have checked river.

I dont think i'm folding top two anyway especially if we have shown weakness

I was out of position in the small blind probably and forgot to correct that in the OP. Thanks for mentioning it. Hand happened a while ago.

Yeah my plan was to snap him off, basically setting a trap. And i called the allin pretty quickly but that timebank play plus overbet made me lot less confident in my call. And sure enough my opponent showed a set of eights lol.

 

[fundiver199]

Assuming that 77 and 44 fold on the flop, and that AA and QQ dont limp-call pre, you only lose to 88 and 65 of diamonds, which is only 4 combos. There are 6 combos of even just A8, so if there is any chance, he is doing this with a worse two pair, then you can not fold, and its just an annoying cooler situation. That being said I would probably bet the river here rather than check to induce. Players, who limp-call preflop, will not always bet busted draws on the river, so you typically want to go for value yourself against the AX part of his range. If you are lucky, he then just call, because he is scared of QQ or AA, but if he jam over your bet, you would still have to call it off for the reasons already stated.

 

[Station_Master]

I was out of position in the small blind probably and forgot to correct that in the OP. Thanks for mentioning it. Hand happened a while ago.

Yeah my plan was to snap him off, basically setting a trap. And i called the allin pretty quickly but that timebank play plus overbet made me lot less confident in my call. And sure enough my opponent showed a set of eights lol.

Makes more sense now. As fundiver said probably.better to bet yourself as he will probably just check back a weak ace. If you were checking to induce presumably, you would have check shoved versusa regular sixe bet anyway. Just a cooler so i wouldnt worry too much.

 

[fundiver199]

Yes if we check this river, then the intention is definitely to check-jam, if the opponent takes the bait. So its not even like, his overbet won him anything extra. If he had raised flop or turn, he would also get our stack. So as stated already just a standard cooler. Its way different, if we have AK. Then I think, the river is a fairly trivial fold, when the opponent moves all-in, because now we also lose to all his two pair hands.

 

[primrose]

Maybe the timing tell allows you to fold. But generally there are a few too many hands he could be doing this with. Could AQ do this? Absolutely, and there are still 4 combinations of AQ out there. What about AK? Possible, and 6 combinations. If so that's 6 combinations you beat and 4 you chop against, which is kinda like 8 combinations you beat, already more than 88 and 6d5d. Complete bluff? Very unlikely, but not impossible. Anything weaker, like AJ? Very unlikely agian, but again not impossible.

Conversely, as fundiver said, not that many logical combos that beat you. Looks like a sigh call.

 

[fundiver199]

Anything weaker, like AJ? Very unlikely agian, but again not impossible.

A limp calling range in online microstakes games is usually full of rag aces, so A8, A7 and A4 seem far more likely than AJ or AK.

 

[primrose]

A limp calling range in online microstakes games is usually full of rag aces, so A8, A7 and A4 seem far more likely than AJ or AK.

Somehow didn't think about the crappy two pairs. But you're completely right; they're both more in the range and stronger on the River than AJ or AK, so much more likely.

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

Makes more sense now. As fundiver said probably.better to bet yourself as he will probably just check back a weak ace. If you were checking to induce presumably, you would have check shoved versusa regular sixe bet anyway. Just a cooler so i wouldnt worry too much.

I actually think i would not check shove there and only call because probably nothing worse i going to call me.

Well on micro you never know 😅 but yeah, better to bet myself.

 

[Station_Master]

I actually think i would not check shove there and only call because probably nothing worse i going to call me.

Well on micro you never know 😅 but yeah, better to bet myself.

All the worse 2 pairs will call and some fish will call any Ace