$2 NLHE 6-max: Two pair vs paired board turn re-raise

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sitingman

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GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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UTG (Hero): $1.95 (98 bb)
MP: $3.17 (159 bb)
CO: $2.49 (125 bb)
BU: $0.57 (29 bb)
SB: $2.00 (100 bb)
BB: $2.25 (113 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.06, 2 players fold, BTN calls $0.06, 1 fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.19) T T J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, BB calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.49) 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.17, BTN calls $0.17, BB raises to $0.64, UTG (Hero) folds, BU folds

I’m not sure what the correct play is on the turn. I felt very much against a full house, with the re-raise sizing looking to get me all in on the river. Looking back though, I had a strong hand and was beating a lot of possible two pairs. Was I meant to call even though I wasn’t particularly happy about it? Should I have been happy to call?

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P: fine.

F: cbet much bigger to 75-100% pot. We're OOP, multi-way and many draws possible.

T: as played, bet much bigger to 75-100% pot. Same reasoning as flop.

As played (bet 35% pot), we don't like it, but we have to call vs raise (3.76x), which is not even standard size (4x) in this multi-way spot.

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Your postflop bet-sizing is way too small, and accomplishes nothing. You're missing value and your bluffs are never getting folds.
 
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I would slow down and check the turn as the BB over calling the flop bet is concerning. Being multi way BBs range is weighted towards value and you block several semibluffs.
You raised UTG and if your oppenents are thinking players they understand your range is heavily weighted towards overpairs and TPTK, Betting seems pointless because the only hands that will call or raise are hands that beat us, except maybe KJ or some Jx draw, but is a gutshot really calling a 70% turn bet with a 3rd player?
Worse still is how do we react to a check raise?
Let this check through, and re-assess river.
 
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Agree re turn sizing being bigger. If you're intent on firing the second barrel then look strong, this looks like a weak blocking bet. Personally I limit these smaller bets to occasional c bets in 3 bet pots and bets to extract value (usually on the river) when I get the impression villains will fold to strong looking bets but make a crying call for a weak looking small amount.

Be interested to know villain types here. What are these players calling with pre? How often do they fold to flop c bets? Are they only getting aggressive with nut type hands? Or are they capable of over valuing hands and building big pots without the nuts? I might play this hand a couple of different ways depending on how I think I can best exploit my opponents. I know you are not using a hud, but are you at least tagging and noting player types to get an indication of whether they are good, bad, agro, passive etc? I'm positive that at 2nl playing exploitative is going to win you more than just playing a gto style, or trying to apply overall population reads.
 
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Thanks for your replies everyone. I believe I bet small on the turn because I thought I was ahead and was trying to get a call from smaller pocket pairs or flush draws, but sounds like this was a mistake. I’m terrible with bet sizing, it is something I’m working on but I end up defaulting to a half pot bet most of the time as I did with the flop.

Yea I do tag players, this hand was around four hands into the session though. I think maybe that was also why I chose to fold. I like to learn about player types before committing to big pots. My opponent played relatively tight passive the rest of the session. They seemed to check the hands down if they missed most of the time, and they played a similar re-raise once when they hit a set on the river so maybe thats my answer right there.
 
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I like your sizing on the flop and turn because SB is a short stack and we do not need to bet big to get his money in. The BB covers us, but he is super wide getting 3,5:1 preflop. And we have Q of spades so we do not need to much of protection. I like the way you played.
 
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