$2 NLHE 6-max: Tilting fish open/3-bet shoves 100% of hands

[Jamalex]

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 190 BB
Hero (BTN): 318.5 BB
SB: 291 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 191.5 BB
MP: 104 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: K:club:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 101.5 BB and is all-in, UTG raises to 191.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 188.5 BB

The rest of the hand doesn't matter too much but I put it here for the curious. The BB is a fish whos on super tilt and has been shoving everyhand he gets. (Even showed down the 27o one of the 30 times prior he had done this) Now everyone at the table completely understands if you put any money in this pot your playing for all the chips preflop. So anyone who wants to flip with the fish puts in a raise and calls the shove. Now here are my questions.

1. If someone is doing this every hand what kind of range would you call this with? All pairs, Only medium to big pairs, Suited aces, AJo+? Luckily I did not have any middling pairs I had to make a call with and I folded my AJo the one time I got it. I either was folding trash mostly or getting obvious calls so I'm curious what you would do here.

2. When another reg who knows exactly whats going on makes the raise intending to get it in with the fish it makes it tricky. Now this player is pretty loose and I saw him call the shove with QJs even once vs this player. So with AKs I decided to limp behind and trap him as well. So fish shoves and the reg Re Shoves to about 200bb. I figure I'm never folding AKs here QQ+ but what if I was trapping 99 or AJs? I'm curious what hands people would call with and what they would fold to the 200bb reshove?

RESULTS ARE BELOW





































































Flop: (485 BB, 3 players) K:spade: 5:spade: 2:heart:

Turn: (485 BB, 3 players) 7:heart:

River: (485 BB, 3 players) J:club:

[spoil]Hero shows A:club: K:club: (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [305 BB]: (Pre 41%, Flop 69%, Turn 64%)
Side Pot#1 [180 BB]: (Pre 49%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)

BB shows 5:heart: 9:heart: (One Pair, Fives)

Main Pot [305 BB]: (Pre 23%, Flop 23%, Turn 33%)

UTG shows 8:diamond: 8:club: (One Pair, Eights)

Main Pot [305 BB]: (Pre 35%, Flop 8%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [180 BB]: (Pre 51%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)

Hero wins 461 BB
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[fundiver199]

Your calling range in this situation depends on, how many players are left to act behind you, and of course also if someone else have already called. Its of little use to be ahead of the "all-in every hand" player, if you are crushed by someone else. Since the situation is pretty rare and wont happen often at higher stakes, its hardly worth the work to figure out the exact ranges for like each position. But for sure you get it in with AK even 3-ways. As you say, the other guy also know, whats going on, so his stack off range is also going to be wider than normal.

 

[Jamalex]

Your calling range in this situation depends on, how many players are left to act behind you, and of course also if someone else have already called. Its of little use to be ahead of the "all-in every hand" player, if you are crushed by someone else. Since the situation is pretty rare and wont happen often at higher stakes, its hardly worth the work to figure out the exact ranges for like each position. But for sure you get it in with AK even 3-ways. As you say, the other guy also know, whats going on, so his stack off range is also going to be wider than normal.

Your probably right about it not being worth the timeThanks for your input anyways

 

[fundiver199]

Your probably right about it not being worth the timeThanks for your input anyways

You are welcome. What I mean, is, that you are most likely playing 2NL for practice and to start building a roll, since you seem to be taking the game serious. And since our brain has a limited capacity to learn stuff, you want to focus on learning stuff, you can bring with you and use to make money, when you move to higher stakes. Like how do I C-bet well in different situations, how to I react to 3-bet and 4-bets and so on and so forth. And some goofball on tilt moving all-in every hand is rarely going to happen at 25NL or even 10NL. So this is not, where the money is going to come from, when you move up.

 

[Jarud]

This spot kind of reminds me of the type of thing that can happen at the latter stages of a sit and go where under repping and slow playing can pay us off massively. I think the way you played the hand enabled you to get max value, if we shove before the fish then we might create enough fold equity to scare UTG off or even worse the fish aswell.
If UTG takes the same line with AJ+ and all pairs then we are likely slightly ahead and like our chances.

 

[Flyair]

Greetings. I look at it this way:
This situation involves a coin toss ...
Either you win or not, it's obvious to everyone. It's like playing AoF.
The opponent's hand range of the initiating POT is unpredictable and it makes no sense to think about it. We can focus on the range of hands of another player participating in this hand and already looking at him make a decision. The second player understands the current situation and is definitely forced to expand his calling range, knowing this I would open + -17% of hands.
AJo +
JJ +
A2s +
89s + connectors
I think something like that. In general, it is ideal to avoid such hands and play such POTs only with reasonable cards.

 

[Flyair]

I think I was in a hurry with the range of connectors. We must take higher