$2 NLHE 6-max: Nut flush draw in 3 Bet pot

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GreenDaddy1

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 17/15/4

Jumping back into a bit of 2nl after a break.

Villain 17/15/4, is particularly aggressive on the flop (AF:9) but had folded 5/6 flops vs C Bets. Looks positionally aware so some kind of, at least, semi decent TAG. He has a high 4 bet ratio (7) and folded 2 of 4 times to 3 Bet (a worthless sample size of both counts) and only 273 hands so dangerous to assume very much more.

FLOP: I threw out a 33% ish C Bet, pretty standard for me currently after I've 3 Bet, which was raised. At the time I thought that was about a 50/50 as far my odds to call the raise to hit the flush. I discounted any outs involving pairing the A or K as I could easily pair one or the other and still be beat or chop. Anyway, I called.

Alarm bells were going off however. When he makes this raise I'm leaning heavily towards him having a queen, QQ or AQ. Maybe KQ. 88 possible. Basically something pretty nuttish and I think I am almost always behind vs this move vs this player pool (888 SNAP at a pretty rotten reg infested time of the day). Given that... seeing as the odds were barely good enough, should I have just laid down if I am that sure I'm nearly always way behind here?
I'd be surprised if AA or KK had not 4 bet pre. It could be an aggressive move with AK to get me to lay down, maybe. JJ/TT/99 surely not raising here. I dont really imagine other hands like QJ raising here either, unless perhaps QJ of spades.


TURN: The K on the turn gives me TPTK but I am not massively thrilled. I do feel like it is going to be hard to get away now. I was probably calling any bet once the K hit, but as played villain's small bet again sees me just scraping a 50/50 on the odds to hit the flush.

He has so little left behind compared to the size of the pot I just shove. Might be some deeper analysis required on what that actually achieves besides making sure I win the full amount when he calls and I hit. You could argue if he had AQ and folds when I shove over the top I'm actually losing money. Struggling to see a hand beating me that I fold out with that shove. Pretty sure I should have just taken my barely decent odds and called, and taken the river as it came.

Anyway, have at it.

Pacific Poker - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 57.5 BB
SB: 110.5 BB
Hero (BB): 153.5 BB
UTG: 25.5 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 67.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, MP calls 10 BB

Flop: (29.5 BB, 2 players) 8 Q 3
Hero bets 10.5 BB, MP raises to 32 BB, Hero calls 21.5 BB

Turn: (93.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, MP bets 27.5 BB, Hero raises to 106 BB, MP calls 26.5 BB and is all-in

River: (201.5 BB, 2 players) 5

Hero shows K A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 46%, Flop 26%, Turn 18%)
MP shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 54%, Flop 74%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 189 BB
 
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P: 3bet to 4x, 3.5x is ok-ish.

F: check/call vs normal bet to realize our equity.

As played (cbet), yes cbet/call.

T: as played, check/evaluate. Weird sizing by villain with SPR of <1. I check/call vs small bet and check/fold vs jam.
 
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Maybe this a minority opinion, but I don't think I'm checking that flop. I think I shove there more often than not.

His flop raise is annoying, but he even at 2NL I think he has Qx and flush draws often enough. Not to mention the odd pure bluff,

When we catch top pair on the turn, combined with the nut flush draw, I think I like to shove and get some lesser flush draws to come along.

We have 64% equity here against a range of JJ+, 88, Aks, KsQs, QsJs, JsTs, AQo+.

Even without JJ we are at 59%.

Isn't being the aggressor on this turn worth something generally?
 
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I think on that flop, with 2 over cards and the NFD, I'm happy to jam over villain's flop raise.

Yes, this time he had a set, but a lot of the time your Ace and King outs will be live along with your flush draw.
 
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I think this player out well for you. I typically don't like to go All in with draws after the flop but with two overs as well I'd have clicked the call button as well. Terrible runout for the set. Nice hand
 
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