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suitedsadness
Rock Star
Silver Level
Learning to use a hud does not take a significant amount of time, it really just increases the accuracy of the knowledge you have on a player. Most players at micro stakes online either don't use one or don't fully understand how to use one so you aren't at a significant disadvantage without a hud in micro stake games, but higher stakes games should probably not be touched without a hud on a site that allows them.
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5pAce_C0wb0y
Rock Star
Silver Level
Just playing more and reading books won't make you a better player. Using tracking software to filter your database to fix leaks and see how you've applied what you've read will.
Zapahlohotrona
Visionary
Silver Level
At the moment, the use (or not use) of all sorts of auxiliary programs for collecting statistics in online poker is purely your business. How many people - so many opinions. Success in poker can be achieved without such programs. The use of programs is not at all necessary, especially if you are a beginner player in poker. However, if you are planning to play poker at a professional level, you cannot do without it.
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woodeng
Rock Star
Silver Level
The only thing that would make this software unfair or cheating is if they did not allow everyone to have access to the software. Because you either don't have the time, or you do not want to use your free time to investigate the software does not make it unfair or cheating. This is a choose -- either choose to use the software or don't use the software.
dallam
Legend
Bronze Level
When you say you have a job, I have a job too. But the players you want to talk about, they don't have any because their JOB IS POKER. So I can understand that they are trying to do everything to be more successful and profitable in it.
I also wanna say that these stats are maybe really relevant but they will not decide everything, and you can have your notes on them which can be as relevant as theirs.
I aggree on you the part when you said poker must be fun. Even if you are making your money from it, you need to have a joy in it.
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Zirkzee
Rock Star
Silver Level
forrow10
Rock Star
Silver Level
Tools do not create good poker players.... Probably some Apps were helpful for tracking and stats but we allways have the last call.
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fletchdad
Legend
Loyaler
I have not looked at any of the replies, but I would be surprised if this has not been said. Still....
As long as poker sites allow it, it is not cheating. You dont have time, others do. So why is that unfair to you? If the sites did not allow it, then, yes.. But they do. So if someone uses an advantage that is allowed that gives them an edge over you, you can go on all you want about having a job (and a lot who use the software are trying POKER as a job... just sayin..) and not having time, but thats your problem. Its not cheating.
And if it makes it no fun for you, then organize a home game. Or find one. I spent a few years trying to make poker a side income. Poker is not fun when you do it like that. It is a job and hard work and the software is demanding, timewise and other ways. So someone who uses it successfully has worked to learn and understand the software, and, yes, will have an edge over one that decides (!) to NOT use it is cheating?
This is just sour grapes or call it what you will.
SightUnseen
Rock Star
Silver Level
Saying cause a poker player uses a stats tracker makes them good would mean giving a random person a hammer makes them an amazing carpenter or paint brush makes them Picasso, that's not so. This is a tool available to all if they choose to use it. The only way you get good at something is putting in time and hard work.
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ronn6583
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Cheating is cheating in games using codes and prohibited software.
The use of statistically allowed HUDs is not equal to cheating.
This question is not correct. Perhaps it needs to be reformulated.
For example:
Does the use of HUD by experienced players give an advantage in the game over those players who do not use it?
I believe that if you know how to use HUD then you have an advantage over those who do not know how to use it, and especially over those who do not use it.
Should it be banned?
I think that this extreme only plays into the hands of cheaters.
If you don't have session statistics, how can you find out what went wrong during the session? How can you progress in the game?
The solution may not be to prohibit programs for collecting statistics, but to close the possibility of obtaining statistics during the game.
All statistics only at the end of the game session for analysis.
The use of statistically allowed HUDs is not equal to cheating.
This question is not correct. Perhaps it needs to be reformulated.
For example:
Does the use of HUD by experienced players give an advantage in the game over those players who do not use it?
I believe that if you know how to use HUD then you have an advantage over those who do not know how to use it, and especially over those who do not use it.
Should it be banned?
I think that this extreme only plays into the hands of cheaters.
If you don't have session statistics, how can you find out what went wrong during the session? How can you progress in the game?
The solution may not be to prohibit programs for collecting statistics, but to close the possibility of obtaining statistics during the game.
All statistics only at the end of the game session for analysis.
Falconcesar
Enthusiast
Silver Level
In my point of view when I play and go there in with a pair of A or a pair of K and if the one who calls my all in has more chip than mine and called me with any 4o5 7o9 card, it is obviously that the game is won by the because the software will hit your cards or throw a straight or a flush at you just by having more chip than the other ... for me it is unfair that it is played that way but hey you have to know how to play the one with the bigger chip than you. ... good games friends and good luck !! (
cwdignus
Carpe diem
Loyaler
I think that a statist tool is just a tool, good players change the way they play all the time, the static changes too, I'm learning to play online to play live, in live play bad beats or variance happen more often than not in online games
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caracaski220
Visionary
Bronze Level
caracaski220
I consider it cheating for sure. Thas why I dont like playing online. Live the player has to play you straight up. I loved it when I was in Carribean championship and was against one of the precious online champs of the year before. Beat the pants off him!. It should be player skill vs player skill. Not who has the best program !!!!!!
I consider it cheating for sure. Thas why I dont like playing online. Live the player has to play you straight up. I loved it when I was in Carribean championship and was against one of the precious online champs of the year before. Beat the pants off him!. It should be player skill vs player skill. Not who has the best program !!!!!!
