alaskabill
Legend
Silver Level
Okay. I was beginning to wonder about you.
As for their stealing of funds, read subject poker, the AGC report and the DOJ's indictments. Pretty much indicates stealing and fraud.
Okay. I was beginning to wonder about you.
As for their stealing of funds, read subject poker, the AGC report and the DOJ's indictments. Pretty much indicates stealing and fraud.
Pascal-lf
Legend
Silver Level
http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/10/internet-gambling-pokerstars-business-beltway-pokerstars.html
pokerstars makes $500 million a year, and FTP was just as big as Stars. Once it's up and running they'll have covered the $360m in less than a year...
tbdbitl
Legend
Silver Level
Who knew gray hair has the same effect?
tbdbitl
Legend
Silver Level
This cracks me up!
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
It means a lot to those of us who have a large amount of funds tied up at FT! People getting back millions of dollars is more than diddly squat.
kidkvno1
Sarah's Pet
Bronze Level
+1It means a lot to those of us who have a large amount of funds tied up at FT! People getting back millions of dollars is more than diddly squat.
PS, i was looking for the "like" button, like on Facebook.
Charade You Are
you can call me Frost
Silver Level
Me too. Like that's proof of anything other than legalized extortion by the DOJ itself. Wasn't Campo let off with a plea to a single misdemeanor after all the scary charges and of course all the Wire Act charges are moot now.
alaskabill
Legend
Silver Level
Obviously I disagree with all of the UGIEA stuff. My posting history reflects that. However, the latest things added on when Bitar surrendered detail FTP"s issues such as greenlighting deposits when they couldn't get the money and the overall cash shortfall, all of which is documented elsewhere (subject poker for instance).
The DOJ was wrong and Black Friday was wrong obviously, that doesn't excuse Lederer and company using player funds as their personal slush fund. I thought that this late in the game most people understood this. Full Tilt stealing your money and the DOJ's actions are two separate things. Condemning FTP for their actions is not an endorsement of DOJ's actions.
eberetta1
Legend
Loyaler
Sure not many responses to her tweet. You are getting more in this thread than she is by tweeting.Okay - well I know and trust this girl very well. If she says book it I am booking it baby!! The rest of you can do what you want.
https://twitter.com/WriterJen/status/228931554443943936
"A very reliable source just told me the Stars/FTP deal is done. If no announcement today, it will happen on Monday. Book it"
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RamdeeBen
Legend
Silver Level
So?
If there was a ton of random replies to her tweet, would you deem it as being more accurate?
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orangepeeleo
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
100% agree with all of this.
If stars hangs on to FTP, although good for people with funds stuck on there, will be bad for everyone who plays online. Stars having a monopoly of online poker will not be good at all. Competition is needed to make things better for the consumer.
Points on a card when you fill up your car, reward vouchers through the post from shopping at the same store every week, all of that happens for companies to attract customers from other retailers, and is great as a consumer. If stars has both the sites then there will be nothing coming back, bar happy hours for 1 week, conveniently at times when stars rake income is at its lowest, and not at peak times when it would benefit the average customer the most.
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orangepeeleo
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
FTP was amazing, flat rakeback, constant happy hours, the ironman promotion, and the newer things like ring game tickets etc. Those were the benefits to the FTP players because of the competition with stars.
I really miss full tilt 20-25k hand a month micro player who uses his fpps as best he can (235's), I've paid $1k rake this year and got about 15% back, and thats running ok in the 235's cashing 1/3 of the time.
I really miss full tilt
20-25k hand a month micro player who uses his fpps as best he can (235's), I've paid $1k rake this year and got about 15% back, and thats running ok in the 235's cashing 1/3 of the time.
ziggymom
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
We all miss are full tilt and poker stars .....that is where my money is wrapped up in toI really miss full tilt
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
That doesn't mean anything at all - replies to tweets never come in droves. What you can't see are the RT's - I saw plenty of them. Plus her tweet was quoted at multiple websites. She is well known and well respected in the poker industry.
Let's hope we aren't all forced to wait til tomorrow now lol. I am ready to create a new thread!
Daniel72
Legend
Bronze Level
All the poker news sites, forums etc. will get tons of hits today.
Let´s hope the best !
Let´s hope the best !
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
I tried to go to bed early so I could get up early in case it was announced early. Major fail - didn't get to sleep until 1am, woke at 3am for over an hour, then awake again before 6:30am. Never went back to sleep.
Pokerstars better make it worthwhile lol. I know a sure way to get an announcement out of them today. I can assure you that as soon as I fall asleep they will announce it - so everyone should make me take a nap later if they haven't announced anything yet.
And before anyone thinks I am so excited I can't sleep - wrong lol. I just know I need to be around to announce it here when it happens.
Pokerstars better make it worthwhile lol. I know a sure way to get an announcement out of them today. I can assure you that as soon as I fall asleep they will announce it - so everyone should make me take a nap later if they haven't announced anything yet.
And before anyone thinks I am so excited I can't sleep - wrong lol. I just know I need to be around to announce it here when it happens.
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
No announcement yet but an article worth reading:
http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com...kerstars-full-tilt-poker-weekend-report-12311
http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com...kerstars-full-tilt-poker-weekend-report-12311
seqas
Rock Star
Silver Level
hopefully later some time there will be. just see that article to def nice reading. you should go sleep tho!
or you could take a 20 min power nap xD thanks for keep updating here do you think it will be announced soon within hour(s)? i guess we can only wait and see, but if you should guess?
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
seqas
Rock Star
Silver Level
I have no idea when - or if it will happen at all - just being prepared because the odds look good.
All I know is that I love my job. This is the 1st time in years I have had to get up early for work - and hopefully the last time for several more years lol.
oke lets hope then
and i agree, they do looks kinda good and when reading also. got faith in what you telling to! hehe, why last time tho stars gotta move their arses!
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
No way a new FTP without the US player pool generates as much rake as Stars currently.
The problem with your logic is that there is currently no real competition for Stars and no prospect for anyone else to buy FTP. So if Stars doesn't buy FTP there is zero competition and no one gets repayed.
The Stars monopoly over RoW online poker is going to exist no matter if they buy out FTP or not. It may exist in an open US market as well but buying FTP doesn't really ensure that although it does give Stars the chance to be in an open US market.
BelgoSuisse
Legend
Silver Level
Probably a lot of recreational players that got burned by FTP failure and decided not to play poker anymore, but would come back to the tables, and specifically to the PS tables, if this goes through and they get their money back.
Also, once you have a near monopoly, you need to take care of the health of the market, not just of your immediate profit.
Also, once you have a near monopoly, you need to take care of the health of the market, not just of your immediate profit.