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[QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 7185076, member: 397965"] As you say, the red and blue lines are basically a zero sum game in tournaments, since one players loss is another players gain, and there is no rake (but a tournament fee). The reason, why most winning players have a falling red line (non showdown winnings) has to do with the mistakes, that most losing players (fish) make. Fish typically tend to call to much, which mean, that when a winning player bet for value, and the fish should have folded some bad hand, then instead they call and lose a big pot at showdown instead of losing a small pot without showdown. Of course they will sometimes get there and win, but overall they replace a small non-showdown loss for a larger showdown loss. This is then further exaggerated, if the winning player adjust by not bluffing a player, that call to much, because then the winning player will not pick up pots, that dont belong to him, which hurt his non-showdown winnings. But he will also not lose big pots at showdown, when his bluff get picked off, which improve his showdown winnings. As I understand it, "the falling red line" has been a huge topic among especially cash game players, since trackers were invented. But I have never really gotten into this, because I am not attempting to play GTO against world class professional players. At the end of the day, the only line, that really matters, is the bottom line, and if fish continue to call to much, then I am happy to continue taking them to value town and not bluff them. [/QUOTE]
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