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Which Do you rely on the most in hold-em?

  • Luck

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Skill

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Both

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • Skill but realize luck does help..

    Votes: 6 60.0%

  • Total voters
    10
twizzybop

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That Luck is much better then skill.. This is an old hand history.. In this case I went in with the best hand, not much more then I can do when I had best hand... the flush draw player, hot cards.. hitting everything he plays..(one who think luck is the best). I have played against him many of times.. I personally believe skill is the better of the 2, but yes luck does help on occasion...


Table: 4784246 (real money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 1 - CV62 ($450 in chips)
Seat 3 - BLAP017 ($3840 in chips)
Seat 4 - HELLMUTH37 ($1240 in chips)
Seat 5 - EL_HOMBRE ($2345 in chips)
Seat 6 - TONYMIKE ($1465 in chips)
Seat 7 - TWIZZYBOP ($885 in chips)
Seat 8 - MORTENRALLI ($1415 in chips)
Seat 9 - MITCHTIA ($1860 in chips)
MITCHTIA - Posts small blind $20
CV62 - Posts big blind $40
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to TWIZZYBOP [8c 8d]
BLAP017 - Calls $40
HELLMUTH37 - Raises $200 to $200
EL_HOMBRE - Folds
TONYMIKE - Folds
TWIZZYBOP - All-In(Raise) $885 to $885
MORTENRALLI - Folds
MITCHTIA - Folds
CV62 - All-In $410
BLAP017 - Calls $845
HELLMUTH37 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 2d 2s]
*** TURN *** [Js 2d 2s] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [Js 2d 2s 6s] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CV62 - Shows [3s 3c] (Full house, threes full of twos)
BLAP017 - Shows [Ks 8s] (Flush, king high)
TWIZZYBOP - Shows [8c 8d] (Two Pairs, eights and twos)
BLAP017 Collects $870 from side pot-1
CV62 Collects $1570 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($2440:$1570,$870)
Board [Js 2d 2s 6s 3d]
Seat 1: CV62 (big blind) won Total ($1570) All-In HI:($1570) with Full house, threes full of twos [3s 3c - P:3s,B:3d,P:3c,B:2s,B:2d]
Seat 3: BLAP017 won Total ($870) HI:($870) with Flush, king high [Ks 8s - P:Ks,B:Js,P:8s,B:6s,B:2s]
Seat 4: HELLMUTH37 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: EL_HOMBRE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: TONYMIKE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: TWIZZYBOP HI:lost with Two Pairs, eights and twos [8c 8d - P:8d,P:8c,B:2s,B:2d,B:Js]
Seat 8: MORTENRALLI (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: MITCHTIA (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
 
t1riel

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Well, you were in a tough spot since you were shortstacked. Pocket 8's are a good hand to go all in with considering you probably wouldn't get a better hand soon. I'm surprised two players called your all-in. I certainly wouldn't call an all-in with pocket 3's or K, 8 suited. SO yeah, luck was certainly at play here.
 
Grumbledook

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I just bet good hands out, so tbh the cards are usually indicative over both luck and skill. Unless you call waiting for good cards and betting aggressive skill ;]
 
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