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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6555039, member: 397965"] Preflop You could squeeze here, but just calling is also fine. Folding would be to tight. Flop This one is pretty close. He only bet 25% of the pot, so if you just call, you are giving everyone great odds to stick around and try to draw out on you. But on the other side we need to be a little carefull not to overplay a hand like this against someone, who opened from MP. His range should be somewhat snug, and we dont want to value own ourselfes against hands like AA, AK or sets. But it can also be argued, that raising gives usefull information. If he comes back over the top with a 3-bet, we can probably just fold right now and get away relatively cheap. So I am ok with this raise, but the better the opponent is, the less I would like it. Turn Total brick and as played I would also fire again to get value from second best made hands and all the draws, that missed. River This is, where I really disagree with your line, and apparently you dont like it yourself either. Jh is a terrible card, not only because it completes the BDFD, but also because it completes KJ, which is one of the few hands, you could otherwise have gotten value from on the river. Finally it also gave AQ, Q9 and 97 a straight. So betting here is way to thin. This is a check-evaluate spot, and unless he bet some silly amount like 10-20% of the pot, I would usually check-fold here. The reason is, there are no busted draws and therefore no natural bluffs. If we go back to the flop QJ, J9 and 97 were OESDs. 97 got there on the river, and QJ and J9 made second pair. If you check the river, most opponents will happily check second pair back. They will not turn it into a bluff. So if this guy has a just somewhat logical range on the earlier streets, he dont end up here with any hands, that are clear candidates for bluffing. And its also not likely, he will bet a hand like K9 and think, its for value. So for me this river is unfortunately a check-fold. And I know, it sounds very weak-tight to check-fold top pair good kicker on the river. But check-folding does not mean, you give up. This is something, Bart Hansson from Crushlivepoker harps on about a lot in many of the hands, people call in with. These are live cash game hands, but the principle also apply in soft online games be they cash games or tournaments. The point is, that often he check back, and then we usually win. But if he bet, we are almost always beat, because he is not bluffing nearly as much, as game theory say, he should. And on the other side if we bet, its to difficult for him to still call with worse hands. So when we do have the best hand, he just fold, and we dont win anything extra. [/QUOTE]

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