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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6811031, member: 305911"] Pre: Agree with above that 2.5x is better here off of 65 BBs ish but min raising is not terrible, just not as good as a bigger raise over the long run. Flop: This is a coordinated board but at least rainbow. I would not go any lower than 45% pot here depending on opponents so I think half pot is good. When we get called here I already would be thinking what villain could have as far as floats and made hands. Straights are there even at this point but I would not be worried about them and thinking that since villain called flop (which is what I wanted) then we should be looking to extract more on the turn. Turn: Card is another diamond so the board gets wetter and brings what little 4x there is to play so I would definitely be betting here and I would go on the bigger side. If villain just floated flop then you arent getting anything even if you bet 1/3rd (or check which I think is really bad) so I would be firing at least half pot here and probably more like 60%. We are too deep to be able to get all our chips in the middle without villain helping us so I would just look for value here and again, be in that 50-60% pot range on sizing. Checking here with this card is a big no-no. River: Flush gets there and 4 to a straight gets there. If you know the villain well enough to know that they know any one pair hand here has tp fold and you look like you have that since you checked turn then this could be a bluff. There are enough value hands as well here with the board texture that we could easily be beat. So this would come down to how much I know villain, if they bluff or are capable then I highly consider calling. If they don't or I am readless I just fold here thinking a bad fold is better than a bad call. Either way, this is one of the reasons why you dont check the turn. [/QUOTE]

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