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Message: [QUOTE="Pokerpoet2, post: 6880227, member: 430261"] In late stages of a Tournament J/J is a possible Shove all in Pre flop, but the player with 5/5 would probably have come along for the ride anyway. It boils down to what you consider the chances of hitting are, I read 3 player right in a Live game, when I was on the BB and the player UTG was short on chips, So he Pushed all-in, and 2 other players just limped called behind him. Now my reason of thought was I knew the player UTG was a player that wouldn't Push with anything less than an Ace in his hand, Which is what he had A/10 Suited, the other 2 players just Limp calling made me think that they were also playing Ace hands of some kind like A/K, A/Q, A/J or similar. To be Honest if they had a Pocket Pair of A/A or K/K, they would have re-raised to isolate the player all-in, So my Pocket Pair of 8/8 suddenly got a lot more attractive. Initially I thought of folding the pair of 8s against an all-in shove, but if I was right and these other 3 players were all playing Aces then it was possible my hand was best before the Flop, (which was proven correct) So I called along with the first 2 limp callers. The flop dropped Q,8,3, rainbow and being first to play I shoved the remainder of my chips all-in, the player UTG was already all-in so it went to the first player who had chips left and feeling he still had a chance to win called along with the 3rd and final player. Low and Behold I had the perfect read on all 3 of them, A/10 suited, A/K and A/Q, My Trips Held up and I was thrown into Chip Leader in the Tournament. Now the problem arises, Was it Luck? Skill? or just my Gut instincts that Won that hand? I really didn't care, because I was Chip Leader at that point. [/QUOTE]

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