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[QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6742049, member: 305911"] Agree with Fundiver above on most points. I do think, though, this hand plays better as a 3 bet and with villain starting the hand with 25 BBs its a perfect stack to 3 bet attack as we can easily fold to any 4 bet here thinking that a 4 bet would be a jam. Sometimes we forget as players its okay to 3 bet fold especially if we have a hand like this and are out of position. I dont think calling is bad by any means here its just I think 3 betting is better. The one very good thing about calling is that BB most likely will continue as well and as long as they dont squeeze we have a nice opportunity to set mine. Again, I think from a button open that could be wide 3 betting pre is more +EV. On the flop a check raise is a must here. If button has nothing then you wont get anymore by just calling anyway. There is a trap element with regards to the BB but I think the draw board outweighs the trap positives and its much better to check raise here. Draws from button will call anyway (which is what we would want) so they are probably only folding with air which is fine since they would not be putting in another bet off their stack depth. Based on their stack they call a raise or jam over with a lot of Qx too so I dont see a reason not to check raise here. Turn is horrible since we could be behind now or at the very least it is an action killer. Maybe button is has some Ax with A of clubs that they would continue with but mostly this is bad. As played this is a check call as you do here. On the river it makes no sense to me to lead here and to lead as much as we lead. Our hand is kind of a bluff catcher but just very high up on the bluff catcher spectrum so leading here just makes all worse hands fold and better hands jam over us. There is a flush and a straight draw out there so I would just check here and then see what happens. I wouldnt be all that mad if it went check check behind me either. As played its a rediculously bad spot since villain could raise here with 2 pair (not sure how likely that is but possible) so there are some things you are ahead of but you are also way behind a lot now too. Comes down to what we know about villain but I think I would fold here much more often than I would call there after getting raised. Not trying to be overly critical but I think you could have 3 bet pre, you definitely should have check raised flop, and the lead on the river is a really bad move because you corner yourself against a better hand but make all worse hands fold outside some potential 2 pair hands like KQ or KJ. [/QUOTE]
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