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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6921042, member: 397965"] Preflop How many players were "everyone"? Depending on the answer to that, you could consider limping behind instead of trying to isolate. But ok the isolation worked, so lets just focus on postflop. Flop Pot must have been at least 26k, depending on how many people "everyone" was. He lead out for 8k, which is less than 30% pot, and yes you have to call that with second pair. Folding is to tight, and raising would be an overplay. Turn Pot is now at least 42k, and he jam for 69k more, so its an overbet. But even so this is still a call. Why do you think, you were supposed to fold? Losing is part of poker. When we are on the bad end of a cooler (strong hand running into an even better hand) and get stacked, we just accept it, and then we reenter or play the next one. Or reload if its a cash game. The goal in poker is to win in the long run. Its not to win every hand or every game. [/QUOTE]