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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6636446, member: 305911"] Theres a lot more here that would be needed to give a good answer. Some questions below that would could change a lot here on what we should do... [LIST] [*]What type of player is UTG? Do they open a lot or are they tight? We need this as thier range would need to be factored in as well since at our decision point they are still in the hand. [*]How many chips does UTG have to start the hand, do we cover them or not? [*]What type of player is Button? Loose or tight, aggressive or non-aggressive? Knowing this goes a long way in constructing their range. [*]Where are you in the standings at this point and what are the pay jumps? ICM of course comes into this even though we cover button and might/could cover UTG [*]Where is UTG and Button in the standings and how close are they to being in last place? [*]Who is in the BB and what is their stack? How do they play meaning are they high variance or not and would want to get involved with less than premiums? [/LIST] Without knowing any of this its hard to give an answer. The first thing we have to think about is would button shove here hands like AQ and AJ. I would think they could depending on where they are in the chips relative to everyone else. If I think AQ and AJ can be there then I am not afraid to call since the only pockets Im worried about I have blockers to (which as we know they still had it but its less likely that they do). Then comes UTG which depending on how tight they are then they could be doing this with a lot we crush but also they could strictly be JJ+ given ICM (yes this is a freeroll where who knows if they event think about that stuff but we cant assume they dont). So this all boils down to a range question on both opponents and then an ICM piece based on where we stand. Trying to go off of what was posted in the thread I dont think this is a bad jam assuming you are in like 5th place out of 8 or something like that and all the money is in the top 3. This seems like a great hand for ICMizer but I dont have that program. Hopefully someone who does will look at this post and be able to give a good answer. Again, if I had to guess I think this is fine as button will show up a whole lot wider here then just AA. [/QUOTE]

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