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Could I have played this any better? I have some opinions, but interested to hear what some of other card players think in this scenario.
 
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Preflop
I am not a fan of min-raising, when you are 200BB deep against the guy on your left and around 50BB against most of the other players. I would go to at least 2,5BB here or even 3BB to pressure the mid stacks.

Flop
You flopped the nuts, so now the only question is, how can you get him to put as many chips as possible in the pot? Firing the standard C-bet is one option, but if he is someone, who will bet a lot when checked to, this is a great spot to go for a check-raise as the preflop raiser.

Turn
Same story as on the flop. If he is doing a lot of floating, then why not give him the chance to stab the turn, and then BOOM there you are with a check-raise.

River
Diamonds completed, but your hand is still strong enough to go for another street of value trying to get called by hands like a worse straight or two pair. Or even top pair if he is sticky. Now though he raise, and this just suck. I dont think, he is ever doing this for value without a flush, so your hand is now a bluffcatcher, and you dont even have a diamond in your hand. But you were also getting around 4:1, so I dont blame you for calling. But its one of those, where we know, we are beat, and we call almost out of spite.
 
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I would had played the same till the turn, and check-call in the river. But it's a regular, well played hand I think.
 
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I am simpatico with Fundiver on this hand for pre flop and flop. I will say, though, that on the flop I prefer betting even if I think villain is agg or could bet when I check due to the diamonds being there and a check behind on the flop is a disaster not only for a street lost in value but also for giving a free card.

I differ from Diver (sorry, only using your post as a reference since your thoughts are always a great place to begin the discussion on hands) on the turn for same reason as above. We cant give a free card here and two diamonds is more likely to check back turn than they would on the flop so I like betting here and I like the sizing although I wouldnt go quite that big but close to it. With this board there are a lot of 2 pair combos possible and also flush draws and random pair and draw hands that we extract a lot from as you did with your bet.

River is where I disagree with how you played it. I share the sentiment of Marshmalo above, I am checking this river not because I am scared (although I dont like the flush card) but am checking because with the diamond coming two pair hands should at least consider folding if not actually fold. Their potential Jx hands like KJ and QJ went way down in value and should fold to a triple barrel. So when we check here it looks like we are on that vulnerable two pair hand or were on specifically KJ and are weary. Depending on the villain, this check can generate a lot of bluffs on the river that I would be ready to call off. Plus, if we check and they do have the flush we will lose less since they will undoubtedly raise as they did when we lead out. I think there is a better chance of getting bluffed into if we check this river rather than hoping for a bluff raise. Betting here thins out villains hands too much imo and checking widens our range and opens the door to pick off a bluff.

A random thing to point out is that in watching the video (which I assume is not sped up) you seem to make your betting decisions quickly. I would take more time in your decisions so that more often you choose a good bet sizing. No qualms about your bet sizing on this hand but if you are really acting that fast it could lead you into making some mistakes that taking a few seconds would avoid.
 
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Could I have played this any better? I have some opinions, but interested to hear what some of other card players think in this scenario.
Pre-flop you must go bigger; at 200bb effective, you can go as big as 3.5x here. If you were SB and it was folded round to you, then yeah, 2x is fine, expecting to call the 10bb 3bet jam, or you can just shove, but at 200bb, you're giving huge implied odds and calling in position with almost any two cards is OK.

Flop: You should either check, or bet bigger (65-80% pot). You have good range advantage here as he didn't 3bet pre, but he still has plenty of hands in his range that can call a large bet, especially when so deep. If you're checking, you're looking to check/raise as you want to build a big pot and try to stack him.

Turn: You should do the opposite to the flop; I mean, if you check/raised you should now bet large and if you c-bet you should now look to check/raise. As played, I like your large bet, but you can also consider check/raising here. So many players float the flop these days, because so many people c-bet, so check/raising turn becomes a nice play and can put him in some horrible spots.

River: Urgh, of course the diamonds come in. I think you still need to bet, but the question is how much. If I'm honest, I think 50% pot is about the worst you can do here. What are you trying to achieve? If you think he's calling any size bet with 2 pair or sets, you should be better big, otherwise, I think a 20-25% block bet is best here.
 
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Nice played! Your straight was defeated by a flush at the river. You were unlucky here, and the software took the nuts-gift back and made a gift to your opponent!
 
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I think you play to fast if the recording is live, did you see the flush before you called the reraise ?,
 
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