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Message: [QUOTE="Mig32, post: 7170793, member: 1048996"] This is a really thoughtful post — thanks for laying it out so clearly. It helps a lot to look at each stage, so here’s my breakdown, from a fellow grinder’s point of view: 1. Pre-flop: Yes, calling here is totally standard with 44 on the button. You're in position, getting decent odds, and set mining in a Mystery Bounty format is a solid play. No mistake here. Only alternative would be a rare squeeze-bluff, but that’s advanced and unnecessary with this hand in this format. 2. Flop (8♦ 7♦ 4♦): You hit bottom set on a super wet board — flush and straight draws everywhere. Here’s where things start to lean toward a missed value opportunity. You’re in position and everyone checks to you. This is where you should definitely bet for two reasons: You deny equity from overcards/flush draws/straight draws. You start building the pot for later streets. Tip: On such wet boards, slowplaying is risky. A small bet (maybe 3–4 BB) would have been ideal to charge draws and get value from hands like top pair, pair + draw, or even overpairs. 3. Turn (K♥): SB bets, MP folds, and you just call again. Still okay, but slightly too passive. At this point, your set is vulnerable on this board texture. A raise would: Take control of the hand. Charge potential draws (e.g., A♦X). Protect your hand against weird river scenarios — like what happened. That said, calling isn’t awful. But I’d lean toward raising here to deny equity. 4. River (K♠): This was the critical moment. Now the board is paired again, and you're holding a full house, but it's the lowest possible one. His bet-shove line strongly reps Kx, which now has you beat unless he's bluffing with a missed draw (unlikely at this level and line). You raise, he shoves, and you call. Biggest Mistake Here: Calling the shove. On this board texture, facing aggression, you should strongly consider folding, especially in a Mystery Bounty format where players love weird lines with disguised premiums. Yes, it feels hard to fold a full house, but: You only beat bluffs or misplayed hands. He’s repping exactly what he had: Kx for a higher boat. So, to answer your questions directly: 1. Pre-flop: Great call. Nothing wrong here. 2. Flop: You should have bet to build the pot and protect your equity. 3. Turn: Calling is okay, but raising would’ve been better. 4. River: The call after raise/shove was a mistake — not recognizing how narrow your value range is here. Folding was tough, but optimal. 5. Cooler or fishy? This is more “learning mistake” than fishy. The situation was tricky, but with some experience, you’ll start recognizing when your full house is at the bottom of the boat hierarchy. My final thoughts: Don’t beat yourself up. This hand shows your thought process is strong and that you’re working to improve — that’s what separates a good player from a long-term loser. Everyone misplays hands; the important part is reflecting like you’re doing now. You've clearly got the mindset of someone who wants to grow. Onward and upward! [/QUOTE]

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