$$500 NL HE MTT: Maybe 🤔 I should have went all in on the flop?

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I pick up ⬆️ 84o in the hj I have about $6500 and the blinds are $75 $150 I just call the big blind the button calls and the big blind calls on the flop comes 4od 6od 8oh the big blind bets $150 and I just call 📞.now here’s we’re I think 💭 I should have raised cause I didn’t give my self fold equity.all tho I don’t think 🤔 they would have folded with their flush draw ✍️ what do you think 🤔.any way I called and the big blind called the turn was the Kos .so the big blind bets about half pot and I went all in and they both call 📞. I don’t focus on bad beats.just would like 👍 to know if I did the right thing thank you for your comment.
 
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they would not fold, or at least one of them would not fold, it was necessary to push on the flop, after all, two small pairs are not the right hand to play it slowly
 
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Pre flop: This is an easy fold as you already mentioned.

Flop: two diamonds on the board and the BB bets 150 which is less than 1/3rd pot. Are betting less than 1/3rd with 86, 66, 57? No and even the overpairs that we are beating dont bet this small into two opponents on this board so we can almost exclusively put them on a small pair (which is tough because we have the pair cards) or a flush draw. W should raise here for value knowing that they have a flush a huge amount of the time. If button has something then they will let us know after our raise but that is not deterring me from raising here. Plus we have not only the two pair but set blockers so unless button is calling with 57 (possible since its a limp) then they need 86 or 66 which is tough to scare us. As played when they overcall they are wider than just flush draws since they are getting a good price and could easily just have like a QJ no diamond hand here. Back to our decision point though, this should be a raise to about 600 here although I think anything 500-700 is fine.

Turn: When the BB bets half pot on the turn I think we can peg their hand exactly here minus one card. Believe me or dont, ,its okay, but I would know they have Kx of diamonds here when they bet half pot vs the small bet on the flop. In this case you should do exactly what you do which is get it in since they are never folding and we are fairly ahead here. The button overcalling would make me think what the hell they have but at that point we would be in and I wouldnt think they have anything huge since we didnt hear from them on the flop.

River: Bad river and we lose but we got it in good to triple up or so. Flop should have been a raise yes but you did get it in on the turn in good shape which is all you can do in spots like these assuming we are playing 84 off pre lol.
 
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Preflop
Easy fold.

Flop
You should never have been here in the first place, but you got bailed out by flopping two pair, and I would clearly raise the lead of BB for value and equity denial.

Turn
The Ks is a high disconnected card, and unless someone have exactly K8, K6 or K4 it did not improve them to a hand better than yours. So I think, its still fine to get it in.

Results
I think, you made some poor decisions preflop and on the flop, but other than that the hand is just a setup. SB is not folding a K high flushdraw with two overs on the flop, or at least he is not supposed to.
 
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Must fold preflop every single time you get junk like this.
On the flop : very wet board, two pair most likely won't hold...
 
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Pre flop: This is an easy fold as you already mentioned.

Flop: two diamonds on the board and the BB bets 150 which is less than 1/3rd pot. Are betting less than 1/3rd with 86, 66, 57? No and even the overpairs that we are beating dont bet this small into two opponents on this board so we can almost exclusively put them on a small pair (which is tough because we have the pair cards) or a flush draw. W should raise here for value knowing that they have a flush a huge amount of the time. If button has something then they will let us know after our raise but that is not deterring me from raising here. Plus we have not only the two pair but set blockers so unless button is calling with 57 (possible since its a limp) then they need 86 or 66 which is tough to scare us. As played when they overcall they are wider than just flush draws since they are getting a good price and could easily just have like a QJ no diamond hand here. Back to our decision point though, this should be a raise to about 600 here although I think anything 500-700 is fine.

Turn: When the BB bets half pot on the turn I think we can peg their hand exactly here minus one card. Believe me or dont, ,its okay, but I would know they have Kx of diamonds here when they bet half pot vs the small bet on the flop. In this case you should do exactly what you do which is get it in since they are never folding and we are fairly ahead here. The button overcalling would make me think what the hell they have but at that point we would be in and I wouldnt think they have anything huge since we didnt hear from them on the flop.

River: Bad river and we lose but we got it in good to triple up or so. Flop should have been a raise yes but you did get it in on the turn in good shape which is all you can do in spots like these assuming we are playing 84 off pre lol.
Thank you for your comment very helpful thank you 🙏.
 
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Preflop
Easy fold.

Flop
You should never have been here in the first place, but you got bailed out by flopping two pair, and I would clearly raise the lead of BB for value and equity denial.

Turn
The Ks is a high disconnected card, and unless someone have exactly K8, K6 or K4 it did not improve them to a hand better than yours. So I think, its still fine to get it in.

Results
I think, you made some poor decisions preflop and on the flop, but other than that the hand is just a setup. SB is not folding a K high flushdraw with two overs on the flop, or at least he is not supposed to.
Wow 🤩 I totally 💯 agree . Thank you for your comment.
 
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Must fold preflop every single time you get junk like this.
On the flop : very wet board, two pair most likely won't hold...
Thank you for your comment
 
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I don't like going all-in here, because the cards you had weren't strong enough for an aggressive play. You are in a danger of a flush from your opponent, but you could see a full house, which unfortunately didn't occure. Flush didn't come but the three of a kind appeared!
 
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I see it as no way in hell you could get away from it unless another diamond came on the turn… there is 0% chance any of those 2 were folding anyway so just simply put it down to hard luck mate and maybe next time just fold 84 off suit 🤦‍♂️😂

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Was this a 500 buyin tournament?? :unsure: Not even the freerolls I play guys play with this hand from this position. 😅
 
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Was this a 500 buyin tournament?? :unsure: Not even the freerolls I play guys play with this hand from this position. 😅
The hand seem to be from Replay Poker, which is a playmoney site :)
 
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Maybe I should have folded pre .
You should fold preflop with these cards. But if you didn't folded and you hit the 2pairs than big raise on the flop. Anyway I don't think that with a big raise they would have folded their flush draw. In my opinion your only chance to escape from this hand would have been with a call on turn and with the second K on the river you would realize that maybe you don't have the strongest hand
 
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Yeah. I would just fold this hand preflop, but after flop, i would go all in , just like you did it.
 
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