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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6671100, member: 305911"] Pre: Depends on BB and how much we think CO and BU will fold but I generally just call in this spot if we are dealing with a suited hand like we have and we are all deep. I would play this hand because it has nut value and not the value of the ace. I think 3 betting is fine but if we are 3 betting here it is solely to take the pot down so 9 BBs is not nearly enough to get the amount folds we need to make this work in the long run. Flop: As played going to the flop I dont love this spot to begin with but we did at least hit middle pair. I hate that the top card is a Q as I think that can smack the calling range of a player who overcalled before our bet. I think Fundivers point is very important that we are getting called not by the opener but the over caller before us so they probably dont have QQ+ as we can easily have it. Therefore I would bet this flop and bet a sizing that gets folds so maybe somewhere around 9.5-12 BBs. As played when we check it is a call for that small a sizing. Turn: Its an undercard non club so I think we have to be happy with that. Unless we were going against 97 or 66 then we are ahead now if we were ahead before. As played there is nothing you can do except check here and then I would call as well on the turn but not liking it and already saying to myself how d*cked I am for the river on most cards that could come. River: A lot of this comes down to what we know about villain but I am fairly strongly leaning towards folding. I just hate spot with 2 overs and 4 to a straight. Could be a busted club draw for sure from villain and their bet sizing kind of says that but I still hate this here and tell myself a bad fold here is better than a bad call and just pitch em in the middle. It goes back to why I dont like 3 betting pre in this spot with this hand and also that if we do we need to be c betting on the flop. I do, though, really like Fundivers point about his value range getting shrunk here, thats astute [/QUOTE]

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