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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6584420, member: 305911"] Love this hand, thank you for posting it because I think it is another hand, where I have said this before, that we could talk for hours about this hand and go back and forth and come up with all sorts of scenarios. To start I dont disagree at all with how you played the hand. In fact, I am not sure if there is another way to play the hand other than how you played it with 4 betting (although maybe we can size up there since our target was a 3 bettor so they are more likely to call which is what we want and get a little more in the middle/value) and then checking flop and with that turn card just calling to keep their smaller boats in and also be weary of the quad potential. In analyzing the river decision which is a doozie, I think we have to start with looking at pre flop. I understand we know nothing about them but we have to assign some thought to what we have seen so far. What hands is villain min 3 betting with here? We know by the river its not AA so are they min raising 99-QQ here? I've seen it before but its weird to me to not 3 bet to a more "normal" sizing there to keep others behind from not getting involved with a hand where over cards come. Then we have to think about what does villain think our 4 bet range is? I would think they would believe its something like big Ax and big pocket pairs. Cant see them thinking we have KJ or something like that. With that thought villain then knows by the turn we at minimum have a boat. They, if bluffing, are now trying to get a boat at minimum to fold which in a normal $5 tourney is usually not easy although I dont play too many $5. The sick part of this is that I feel if villain had Ax they would play this hand exactly how they played it and if they planned on the turn to bluff us for whatever reason then they would also play the hand in this way with these bet sizings. With that and only playing against them for 3 hands I don't think anyone (hope Im wrong because I cant) can give an answer here other than you just go with what you feel like at the moment. This would be hand where I think my gut would tell me fold but my brain would tell me call and usually my gut is right but I think guessing how I would play with this spot if I were to face it I would probably call it and make them have it. For the record no reason to raise here as what worse will call us, I would think even QQ would fold to a raise so if we raise we are only getting called by Ax which is all we lose to here. Really interested in what others say, you say, and the final outcome. Great hand to post! [/QUOTE]

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