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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6681382, member: 305911"] Pretty much agree with the above but I will add my thoughts on the turn since I think that is the most intersting street in this hand considering how it played out. I agree that checking is better than betting. I do believe though that Qx bets here and I think most of the time Jx will bet here but not always. So when they check its a lot of Ace high stuff and some Jx that didnt bet. If you bet here then you are betting here to either deny equity from overcards or some draw if they have it or you are betting as a blocker bet of sorts for the river as if you bet here on the turn you will most likely get checked to on the river. I think either of those are at least somewhat okay reasons to bet the turn but if we are going to bet why so small? Small bets there are generating any fold equity (imo) from the hands we want to deny equity from. The bet in that case then becomes a value bet of sorts as you are targeting those hands, however, you are giving villain such a good price that their draws are at least close and the equity you are attempting to deny is not far off from making the right call. So I would say that if are going to bet the turn there (I generally wouldnt bet there) that it should be bigger to at least get some folds from the stuff you are worried about drawing out. I think in this spot we actually would not be too mad if villain bets into us on the river (depending on the river card) since we can rule out Qx so I am not afraid of villain betting here and if the its a low card in the deck and villains bet is not huge I am perfectly fine bluff catching with 88. Thats another reason to check the turn here. On river I completely agree with FunDiver but I would not attempt a bluff either. We are betting the turn with our Qx so villain knows we would not have it the same as we know they dont have it. So with them knowing we are a little capped I dont like trying to make 1010 or 99 fold there and its such a sliver of their range. We cant target smaller pairs either because they all set except 77,66, and 22 which is also a sliver so when this is checked to me on river I am snap checking back and taking the showdown value of 88. [/QUOTE]

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